AEV 2.5 DualSport RT Suspension System - Review

[KurtP]

If you placed an order for control arms they should be shipping out within 1 to 2 weeks! Covid-free Brisket please

mesquite?

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[Clayton Off Road]

mesquite?

We'll take it!

 

[hickman785]

If posting our spring rates is considered dirty talk I'm here to help

Without knowing exactly what AEV's coils are rated at, it's hard to say, however I'm pretty confident there are not currently any spring options on the market rated higher than ours. We also have HD coils coming to market soon for those of you with the insane Overland builds, so look out for that! Also, remember high-quality springs are great and we take pride in having some of the most dependable options for kits and springs on the market, but what makes them really great and work well is when they're paired with a high-quality set of control arms and track bars that are adjustable and are able to move freely so that your suspension is not bound up and riding harshly!

Clayton JT 3.5" published spring rates:

Front;

• Spring Rate = 188 lb/in

Rear;

• Triple Rate
• Spring Rate 1 = 190 lbs/in
• Spring Rate 2 = 280 lbs/in
• Spring Rate 3 = 360 lbs/in

If you do decide to send us BBQ sauce, please make sure it is in the Gallon sized bottle as we don't want any employees feeling left out!!

Any idea when those heavy duty springs for insane builds will be available?

 

[Clayton Off Road]

Any idea when those heavy duty springs for insane builds will be available?

Springs are in testing now, if it goes as planned we should have some available for order by summer time. If you're looking for a solution in the meantime, we have a few guys that use our kits to haul around upwards of 800 lbs on the bed, we can definitely help you out if you give us a call!

 

[joemussari]

Anyone have any pictures of this kit on a Sport?

 

[InvertedLogic]

Springs are in testing now, if it goes as planned we should have some available for order by summer time. If you're looking for a solution in the meantime, we have a few guys that use our kits to haul around upwards of 800 lbs on the bed, we can definitely help you out if you give us a call!

Can you speak to any frequency tuning methods that Clayton performs, like AEV details?

 

[CerOf]

Man, I just went down a rabbit hole for last 1.5hrs learning about spring frequency. It is the speed at which a spring returns to the position it was in after you hit a bump.
The speed varies based upon a given load and that load can and is different at every corner of your vehicle.
This means a spring with same windings, “thickness”(for lack of a better word) length, and weight rating to compress the spring 1” used at one corner of your vehicle will move up and down at xxxx speed.
That same spring might only oscillate at xx speed at another corner because the load is different.

If they are different, you’ll have a vehicle bouncing all over the place.

Remember jumping on a trampoline as a kid? One person could start bouncing and another kid could bounce just right to send the first kid SKY HIGH? This is likely because the bouncers (kids) were not bouncing the exact same! Not at the same speed or frequency.

So, if I understand this correctly, you have to adjust the windings, thickness, weight rating, length, etc. so that all the springs react/bounce up and down at the same speed. If they don’t, they vehicle can become unsettled and exhibit poor handling, and put you into a curb, or worse!

So I guess this is why we are seeing side specific springs from several manufacturers.

okay, any, some, or all of the above could be incorrect. Don’t take it as gospel. Just my little rabbit hole I’ve been in and just emerging from.

 

[aevgladitorrubi]

Curious how the Bilstein shocks could take out the body roll without making the ride firmer and harsher. I have had 5100s on other vehicles and found them hard riding. Why did you use the other brands of bump stops?

Firm and less dive-- drives way better than stock, more like sports car... NOT too stiff, shocks are great

 

[JK4AER]

Firm and less dive-- drives way better than stock, more like sports car... NOT too stiff, shocks are great

I concur!!

 

[InvertedLogic]

Man, I just went down a rabbit hole for last 1.5hrs learning about spring frequency. It is the speed at which a spring returns to the position it was in after you hit a bump.
The speed varies based upon a given load and that load can and is different at every corner of your vehicle.
This means a spring with same windings, “thickness”(for lack of a better word) length, and weight rating to compress the spring 1” used at one corner of your vehicle will move up and down at xxxx speed.
That same spring might only oscillate at xx speed at another corner because the load is different.

If they are different, you’ll have a vehicle bouncing all over the place.

Remember jumping on a trampoline as a kid? One person could start bouncing and another kid could bounce just right to send the first kid SKY HIGH? This is likely because the bouncers (kids) were not bouncing the exact same! Not at the same speed or frequency.

So, if I understand this correctly, you have to adjust the windings, thickness, weight rating, length, etc. so that all the springs react/bounce up and down at the same speed. If they don’t, they vehicle can become unsettled and exhibit poor handling, and put you into a curb, or worse!

So I guess this is why we are seeing side specific springs from several manufacturers.

okay, any, some, or all of the above could be incorrect. Don’t take it as gospel. Just my little rabbit hole I’ve been in and just emerging from.

Fun stuff huh? It can be an advantage to have the rear at a slightly higher frequency since the rear will hit the obstacle some time after the front which allows the two ends to settle around the same time instead of see-saw back and forth.

I've seen AEV and Synergy talk about frequency tuning openly which tells me they're at least doing their due diligence to provide an excellent ride and not just getting ride height (looking at you RC). I'm curious what kind of analysis Clayton does since I see people around here pretty happy with their stuff.

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