American made

[jsalbre]

I’ve had 3 VWs made in Mexico. The only issue I ever had was a loose trim piece on one that rattled. The ones made in Germany had a longer list.

We should all be happy that it’s a “global economy” we live in, patriot or not. The more we all depend on each other financially the more apt we are to find solutions to problems that aren’t “drop a bomb on them”. As someone currently serving in the USAF, I appreciate that.

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[JAVIERGONZO]

I’ve had 3 VWs made in Mexico. The only issue I ever had was a loose trim piece on one that rattled. The ones made in Germany had a longer list.

We should all be happy that it’s a “global economy” we live in, patriot or not. The more we all depend on each other financially the more apt we are to find solutions to problems that aren’t “drop a bomb on them”. As someone currently serving in the USAF, I appreciate that.

I agree.

 

[Username_Not_Found]

Some items are just made way better in other countries. Either they can produce less critical parts much cheaper (ones that people do not value enough to pay American made prices) or quite often, there just aren't good American alternatives. Some countries or regions are simply better equipped for manufacturing certain items. At the moment I would not want a truck relying on an American designed and manufactured semi-conductor. The Taiwanese are unquestionably the leading experts in that field and unfortunately due to supply shortages, Taiwan not being able to produce them means shortages globally, but every other country is so far behind on the technology and manufacture of semi-conductors that their is no good alternative. I'm all for American made when it provides a high quality product, but American made does not always mean you are getting the best of the best and that's okay. I support American made when able and hope to see a return to form as a leader in manufacturing and engineering, but there is nothing wrong with accepting that we are in a global economy and must rely on others as well.

 

[Aonarch]

Welcome to the Global Economy.

 

[ShirtlessCubsFan]

I went with the Gladiator because I miss my old JKU and I need a truck that satisfies the minimum requirements to be one, because all I'll haul is dirty camping gear, mountain bikes, and smelly sports equipment that I don't want dirtying and stinking up my vehicle's interior.

So I'll take great pride in pulling up to a campsite in my American made truck, pulling out my American made cooler (Grizzly), and cracking open an American made beer (or 16 (various local craft breweries)).

I'm going to America the shit out of those "why didn't you get a real truck?!" douchebros who flip out their tow mirrors when the biggest load they carry is a Chinese-made Yeti full of gas station European-owned beer (Bud Light).

 

[jsalbre]

I went with the Gladiator because I miss my old JKU and I need a truck that satisfies the minimum requirements to be one, because all I'll haul is dirty camping gear, mountain bikes, and smelly sports equipment that I don't want dirtying and stinking up my vehicle's interior.

So I'll take great pride in pulling up to a campsite in my American made truck, pulling out my American made cooler (Grizzly), and cracking open an American made beer (or 16 (various local craft breweries)).

I'm going to America the shit out of those "why didn't you get a real truck?!" douchebros who flip out their tow mirrors when the biggest load they carry is a Chinese-made Yeti full of gas station European-owned beer (Bud Light).

You know you've got a Mexican made VW and a Mexican made Mercedes in your signature. Also, only 65% of the Mojave is made in the US or Canada.

 

[Klutch]

Which is better:

A truck designed in the U.S., with parts from other countries, that's assembled here, and then the profits stay here...

or.... a truck designed overseas, built here, with parts from here, and then all the profit goes back overseas (Toyota/Honda)?

I think that's a tough question to answer if you're a patriot. If you're not then it doesn't matter.

I'm a US Navy veteran and I'm very patriotic. I really don't think your description of "patriotic" is accurate here.

Consider Ford and GM have factories overseas. They buy and sell foreign brands all the time. Thus, when you buy a Ford or GM vehicle, you're helping to build or renew a factory in China or Europe. Chrysler is now owned by a Fiat/Peugeot consortium. The idea that "the money stays here" is not really accurate.

As posted above, it's a global economy. By all means, support your local stores and restaurants, but when a buying a vehicle, I don't see how patriotism applies.

 

[booneja]

Which is better:

A truck designed in the U.S., with parts from other countries, that's assembled here, and then the profits stay here...

or.... a truck designed overseas, built here, with parts from here, and then all the profit goes back overseas (Toyota/Honda)?

I think that's a tough question to answer if you're a patriot. If you're not then it doesn't matter.

There is a different way to look at this (IMHO):

for the truck that is designed/ assembled in HQ country that takes the "profits" (so only one company in HQ Country gains the benefit), each of the (foreign) part suppliers make a profit and employ more pers

for the truck that is designed/ assembled in a different country and only parts are sourced in US, then the multiple part manufacturers and employees reap the benefits/ profits

I personally am on the fence because I like diversity and personally think that the more spread out the gains are in industry the better, but I am open for convincing otherwise?

 

[Klutch]

There is a different way to look at this (IMHO):

for the truck that is designed/ assembled in HQ country that takes the "profits" (so only one company in HQ Country gains the benefit), each of the (foreign) part suppliers make a profit and employ more pers

for the truck that is designed/ assembled in a different country and only parts are sourced in US, then the multiple part manufacturers and employees reap the benefits/ profits

I personally am on the fence because I like diversity and personally think that the more spread out the gains are in industry the better, but I am open for convincing otherwise?

I can see it from multiple perspectives. Just as buying a Buick contributed to building a factory in China, buying a Subaru contributed to building a factory in Lafayette, Indiana. The money doesn't really stay anywhere. It moves around. Yep. It's a global thing.

 

[punk'n]

The global economy has been around forever. I have a 1965 Harley Davidson built in Varese, Italy.

 

[ShirtlessCubsFan]

You know you've got a Mexican made VW and a Mexican made Mercedes in your signature. Also, only 65% of the Mojave is made in the US or Canada.

Yes, and?

 

[Trickster]

I have a Swedish designed Volvo, owned by Geely (Chinese) and built in Belgium, that was sold in Canada.
But that doesn’t mean I am not a Patriot.

 

[Jefe1018]

This thread reminds me of an old co-worker. He was a Ford rep for many years and one day saw me driving a G35 I purchased used.

His words: “You know when you buy American, the money stay in America?”

My response (at least in my head, too much respect for the gentleman): “What’s better for the local economy, a used Japanese sports car or an F150 assembled in Canada?”

 

[PsyRN]

I would also add that just because something was "made in [overseas country]" that it's automatically poor quality. I've seen poor quality things "Made in the USA", and high quality things from other countries. Quality of manufacture is determined by the oversite of the company requesting the manufacturing. That said, higher quality often means higher price, and companies are trying to reach certain price points that we the public are willing to pay.

 

[Trickster]

This thread reminds me of an old co-worker. He was a Ford rep for many years and one day saw me driving a G35 I purchased used.

His words: “You know when you buy American, the money stay in America?”

My response (at least in my head, too much respect for the gentleman): “What’s better for the local economy, a used Japanese sports car or an F150 assembled in Canada?”

The F-150, we’re your neighbours.?

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