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Broken tab/weld on Mojave Frame..No Warranty???

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I'm using model year, not calendar year.

But Jeep usually doesn't immediately switch to the next MY on Jan 1 like other manufacturers.
That was my point -
2018 models likely went into production around September, give or take, seldom later than that (except in covid years)
So when we say "early 2018 model year" that would refer to a vehicle made in 2017.
Early 2020 model would be made in calendar year 2019
Late 2020 MODEL year would be perhaps June or July 2020


The early JLs had some weld issues that were a flaw in the production process. That might have been what you encountered on your JL if it was an earlier 2018.
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Yep apr 2018 from factory .
That's a late 2018, not an early one. That's over half-way through the model year.
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That's a late 2018, not an early one. That's over half-way through the model year.
2018 was a split year. JK's were phased out as 2018's and JL's were introduced as 2018's. JL production did not begin until the very end of 2017 and only for certain build configurations.
 

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2018 was a split year. JK's were phased out as 2018's and JL's were introduced as 2018's. JL production did not begin until the very end of 2017 and only for certain build configurations.
Then that model and that year are the exceptions. Still, that's about in the middle of 2018 production if you counted January as 1 and August as 8, April would be 4.
 

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I had the tab that holds the rear sway bar link literally tear (see attached pictures). No off roading or any other broken parts or damage. I think it may have happened when I fishtailed for a second on a patch of ice. Nothing else out of the ordinary has happened so I would assume that was the cause. I took it in to the dealer and they blamed the fact that there was an aftermarket sway Helwig bar installed(dealer installed the sway bar). They are refusing to fix it under warranty and blaming the sway bar as the cause, which amazes me. ANd they want $800 to weld it back together. I'm of the opinion that "FORCE" caused the metal to rip/tear not a better/stronger swaybar from Helwig. Naturally the "weakest link" in the chain is going to break under force. Which in this case is the Jeep sway bar bracket on the frame...

See the pictures and I'd love to have your opinions on this. I tried involving JeepCares, called and through this form and all I get is the phone number for a different dealer who have all been trained to blame any aftermarket part when remotely possible....I'd like a quilified engineer to comment on this if anyone out there is a PE.

What do you guys think???
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That brakes looks weak. Your dealer is a douche bag.
 

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Then that model and that year are the exceptions. Still, that's about in the middle of 2018 production if you counted January as 1 and August as 8, April would be 4.
It depends on the build. From what I've read, the 2L did not go into production until Feb or March, and the diesel much later in the year. I'm splitting hairs, but it's an important distinction in your particular discussion. 4 months of production is not much time to begin getting feedback from the first deliveries.

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/...production-could-start-in-october-120065.html
 
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It depends on the build. From what I've read, the 2L did not go into production until Feb or March, and the diesel much later in the year. I'm splitting hairs, but it's an important distinction in your particular discussion. 4 months of production is not much time to begin getting feedback from the first deliveries.

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/...production-could-start-in-october-120065.html
Nothin sounds worse that a 2.0 . Perhaps maybe a mid 90’s volvo? If you go over to the JL forum guys are jackin themselves off to the 2.0. I just dont get it.
 

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is driving with a cracked sway bar mount dangerous or is it ok? And does anyone have a picture of a repair/reinforcement.?
 

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is driving with a cracked sway bar mount dangerous or is it ok? And does anyone have a picture of a repair/reinforcement.?
Best thing to do is to inspect it really good. Clean the area with a wire brush. If you see a crack. Or you want some insurance. Have the threaded bing welded. On that bracket. They punched the hole. They didn't drill it. When you punch a hole that close to the end. It puts stress in the part on the thin end.

On another note. No dealer will fix this under warranty. The M-M law won't help. You changed a suspension piece that has direct effect on the part that broke. Get all the lawyers you want. Been involved in a case.
 

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I ask because I noticed mine are both cracked. I messaged with a guy yesterday and he is going to squeeze me in this week to repair it. I had not planned to even bother with the dealership due to MM, time, and wanting it done right. Plus, I am going to talk the guy I am taking it to about a re gear.

And yes, I running a Hellwig and I have a lot of weight in the bed. Based on this thread, I will either be going back to the OEM bar, the softer setting on the Hellwig, or maybe the Rockjocks.

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My $.05 [Inflation]

I will add, compared to the TJ, IMHO, the end link bracket on the JT is an inferior design and I can see why it would break. The same area on a TJ is a giant rectangle, that is welded to the inside of the frame rail. On a TJ, the end link uses the section where the brake line hanger is bolted on the JT and thus has a lot more metal around it, boxed in a way that promotes strength.

That aside, Once a person adds bigger components, the responsibility is on the owner for certain breaks, and I feel this is one of them. If you had a stock sway bar, hell yea, Jeep should fix it. But, the upgraded sway bar transferred the load from the sway bar to the mount. I kind of feel the vender of that swaybar has failed. They should include something to help strengthen the mount, since by design, their sway bar is going to put more stress on a part, everyone knows is already borderline, if not up to the task with the stock sway bar.
 
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The crack is there when they are manufactured. As the bracket gets flexed from use, the crack can widen and allow the nutsert to spin or pull out, but it’s there from the start.
Interesting. I did not know that.

I had it repaired and all is good now (I hope). I changed the anti sway bar setting to the softest setting, we will see how it goes.

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