What did you do TO your Gladiator today? [ADMIN WARNING: NO POLITICS, NO GUN TALK]

[ShadowsPapa]

I used the Mopar lift specs which reuse factory hardware but have higher specs than the factory. There's a couple in there that are 190 and 200 ft-lb that were insane to hit even with a 24" torque wrench. Had to have my wife hold the wrench on the backside because I couldn't hit it one handed on the ground.

One of these days I'm just going to do a large Fastenal order and get a full set of flange nuts and bolts and do it all with loctite. I'll carry a few extra nyloc in case I need to pull one loose on trail or something.

Once the truck was back on the ground with the bolts tightened only to the point of making contact, I situated a wrench on the nut and placed a bar for it to hit to stop it from turning and then stood by the truck with my torque wrench and an extension long enough to get to the bolt but clear the truck's body. Wasn't bad that way. At least for the rear lower arm bolts........ some of the others, not quite as fun.

I wanted to see how the lift kit specs compared to the factory specs - I set it to the 190 when I installed the longer lift kit lower arms a few months ago.
What I found is basically what I suspected based on experience torqueing some pretty hefty things over the years - the 190 spec'd for the lower control arms and the 110 for the front track bar as listed in the mopar lift kit spec sheet is actually lower than if you did the full factory torque plus angle.

This time when swapping back, I used the factory spec torque plus angle.
I literally had to use a cheater on a breaker bar to meet the full 103 + 145°
As a test, I then set my 250 lb/ft wrench to 205 (the spec is 190 in that lift kit sheet for LCAs) and it clicked well before anything turned.

Same for the track bar - the bar bolt specs on the MOPAR lift kit sheet is a measly 110 - pretty lame, IMO.
The factory spec for the front track bar is 52 plus 115° for the frame bolt and
I also found the track bar's 110 was easier to achieve than the factory 52 plus 115° for the track bar frame bolt and 52 plus 155° for the track bar to axle bolt.
If I set my torque wrench to 120 and try those bolts, it clicks and they don't move - showing they are tighter with the factory spec than the lift kit spec.
I'm suspecting that they understand most who install lift kits won't be using torque plus angle, and may have trouble meeting the factory spec...... or, that spec sheet is taking legacy numbers and wasn't updated in the last 3 years.

But here's my finding -
If I use the 190 from the lift kit sheet for the LCA and then set the torque wrench up 10 I can turn the bolt farther before it clicks.
If I use the torque plus angle for the LCA bolts, I can set my wrench up to over 200 and it will click before a bolt turns.
Same for the track bar......... using the factory torque plus angle my wrench clicks way before a bolt would move.
The factory specs even have the track bar to axle bolt quite a bit higher/tighter than the track bar to frame bolt spec by 40 degrees.

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[Joe Gladiator]

got a deal on a used front Rubi steel bumper and new Warn evo8. Next to install it need the warn winch plate!

 

[Gren71]

I haven't installed mine yet, but I am trying to decide how complicated I want to get with filling them. I could just go with Schrader valves that they come with or plumb them into my ARB system...

How did you decide go to fill them? I assume you are keeping them separated?

the airlift bags? I followed another members suggestion and use a bicycle pump and fill them before adding a load to the JT. works perfectly.

i use this one
https://www.amazon.com/Schwinn-Base...57039766&sprefix=bicycle+pump,aps,107&sr=8-12

But i also keep one of these charged in the truck incase I need it for the tires in general. it works well for the bags if I forget my bike pump.
https://www.amazon.com/Electric-Shu...jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==

 

[Beemer533]

the airlift bags? I followed another members suggestion and use a bicycle pump and fill them before adding a load to the JT. works perfectly.

i use this one
https://www.amazon.com/Schwinn-Base-Plus-Bike-Foot/dp/B085FQPVG3/ref=sr_1_12?crid=WC9QQZ1DQGAY&keywords=bicycle+pump&qid=1657039766&sprefix=bicycle+pump,aps,107&sr=8-12

But i also keep one of these charged in the truck incase I need it for the tires in general. it works well for the bags if I forget my bike pump.
https://www.amazon.com/Electric-Shut-Off-Presta-Schrader-Rechargeable/dp/B088KK8GD4/ref=sxin_13_pa_sp_search_thematic_sspa?content-id=amzn1.sym.b245e49f-68a4-4489-b1f9-81f4034255f5:amzn1.sym.b245e49f-68a4-4489-b1f9-81f4034255f5&crid=WC9QQZ1DQGAY&cv_ct_cx=bicycle+pump&keywords=bicycle+pump&pd_rd_i=B088KK8GD4&pd_rd_r=9b61bc33-0239-4744-99bb-fbbb0ac66aec&pd_rd_w=axhxq&pd_rd_wg=ij9lp&pf_rd_p=b245e49f-68a4-4489-b1f9-81f4034255f5&pf_rd_r=TJ5TSGV5Z6277B1MXFA7&qid=1657039766&sprefix=bicycle+pump,aps,107&sr=1-2-a73d1c8c-2fd2-4f19-aa41-2df022bcb241-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEyWVY3NVgyQkUyNlY4JmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMTgzMzk2MzVZMUgwUjdNSkdOUyZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNDgxNjcyNFNSVDdZSVUxMFVQJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3Bfc2VhcmNoX3RoZW1hdGljJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==

Thanks, I appreciate the response.

I was more wondering if you just used the Schrader valves that came with the bags and where you mounted them. I wasn't too clear on what I was asking, sorry.

 

[BAT]

Installed mine yesterday , lovem !

Mine are out for delivery and I think the one's you have look just like the one's I ordered.

I got the black and grey

 

[Gren71]

Thanks, I appreciate the response.

I was more wondering if you just used the Schrader valves that came with the bags and where you mounted them. I wasn't too clear on what I was asking, sorry.

I followed the install video by the evolving male fella on youtube. This location has been perfect for nearly two years. I can fit the pump I linked in there no issue, and its not in the way of my pump handle when filling up.

 

[OngsterA]

Installed the Access tonneau that fits UNDER my halfrack!! Easy straightforward install.?

 

[SargeDiesel]

Mine are out for delivery and I think the one's you have look just like the one's I ordered.

I got the black and grey

Yes they are. I got the XL-Long in Black/Grey. I'm running 37's so you can judge the look. I also ordered the permanent install kit, so I have the option later for the quick release if I want. It was cheaper to add the Permanent kit to the order @$9. vs adding the quick release kit later @ $25. I did have two brackets left over that I couldn't find any info on. Didn't see them used in the install video either, prob contact Rokblokz and ask (pictured below). Other than that, the rear install was reversed for the Diesel.

 

[Killroy Was Here]

Yes they are. I got the XL-Long in Black/Grey. I'm running 37's so you can judge the look. I also ordered the permanent install kit, so I have the option later for the quick release if I want. It was cheaper to add the Permanent kit to the order @$9. vs adding the quick release kit later @ $25. I did have two brackets left over that I couldn't find any info on. Didn't see them used in the install video either, prob contact Rokblokz and ask (pictured below). Other than that, the rear install was reversed for the Diesel.

This image shows where your extra brackets go:

Hope this is a help.

Dave

 

[SargeDiesel]

This image shows where your extra brackets go:

Hope this is a help.

Dave

Thank you, the official Rokbloks installation video on YouTube made no mention of the brackets at all. Maybe its on paper instructions somewhere. Makes a lot of sense because I noticed the longer brackets were a little flimsy... I appreciate the assist... exactly what the forum is all about !!!

 

[BAT]

Yes they are. I got the XL-Long in Black/Grey. I'm running 37's so you can judge the look. I also ordered the permanent install kit, so I have the option later for the quick release if I want. It was cheaper to add the Permanent kit to the order @$9. vs adding the quick release kit later @ $25. I did have two brackets left over that I couldn't find any info on. Didn't see them used in the install video either, prob contact Rokblokz and ask (pictured below). Other than that, the rear install was reversed for the Diesel.

Am running 33's currently maybe go to 35's later. I just went with the XL Original which should work for me. I'll tackle the rears this weekend when I have more time

 

[SargeDiesel]

Am running 33's currently maybe go to 35's later. I just went with the XL Original which should work for me. I'll tackle the rears this weekend when I have more time

Sounds good, it took longer to put the set together than it did to install.... so your weekend should be pretty clear.

 

[BAT]

Sounds good, it took longer to put the set together than it did to install.... so your weekend should be pretty clear.

Yep the just arrived

 

[ALVagabond]

So, I’d never heard of these tires so I did a little 30 second search…

Unless you’re trying them out as disposable tires you may want to reconsider.

I spent at least 5 minutes doing research on these tires. That's 10x more research! I'm pretty sure i even watched that video.

I’m definitely not trying to be a Debbie downer, but if you hadn’t considered this and it’s not too late to return them I just thought I’d try to chime in before they were mounted and not returnable.

Dude, I posted that over 2 years ago. I think it's too late to return them. Lol

 

[DocMike]

Ceramic coated....just need to clean the interior, shampoo carpet all that.

Oh and Armour all tire clean does a great job on the suspension and wheel liners.

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