2020 Jeep Gladiator Pickup (JT) Info Compilation

[2015er]

We have some new info to share! First, we've confirmed the JT is a 2020 Model Year. Based on what we know, we estimate that production will begin around January 2019 and Order Banks should open around January/February 2019.

Here are some additional features/options we have confirmed (see the full list in the first post):

Engine/Transmission

• 3.6L V6 with Engine Start Stop
• 3.0L V6 Turbo Diesel Engine with Engine Start-Stop
• 6-speed Manual Transmission
• 8-speed 850RE Auto Transmission

Exterior/Misc

• Removable hard top and soft tops
• Black 3-Piece Hard Top
• Body Color 3-Piece Hard Top
• Premium Black Sunrider Soft Top
• Sliding Rear Window
• Tailgate Lock (electric)
• Tonneau Cover
• 115V Exterior Power Outlet
• 22-Gallon Fuel Tank

Interior

• 400-Watt Power Inverter
• Backup Camera with Hitch View
• Lockable Storage Bin (under rear seat)
• Radios (same as JL)
• Wireless Bluetooth Speaker

Safety

• Adaptive Cruise Control w/Stop
• Blind Spot/Cross Path Detection
• Full Speed Forward Collision Warning Plus

Is it going to be a crew cab only?

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[Gladiator4Runner]

Are we absolutely sure that they will not pair the manual with the diesel?

I'm not certain....they haven't said one way or the other as far as I know

 

[Billy]

I'm not certain....they haven't said one way or the other as far as I know

It's been said many times that the 6 speed can't handle the torque of the 3.0, so they will not offer a manual option with the diesel.

 

[JLUfan]

It's been said many times that the 6 speed can't handle the torque of the 3.0, so they will not offer a manual option with the diesel.

What kills me is that there is obviously something available. They were able to “beef up“ the eight speed automatic to accommodate the diesel. They have a six speed manual that FCA uses with the Cummins which is far much more torquey than the VM Motori. I wish they would just make it happen.

 

[Billy]

What kills me is that there is obviously something available. They were able to “beef up“ the eight speed automatic to accommodate the diesel. They have a six speed manual that FCA uses with the Cummins which is far much more torquey than the VM Motori. I wish they would just make it happen.

It's a different category and fitment.

Not intending to flame here, just my observations.

Stands to reason the Cummins is mated to a BF truck transmission. The JL & JT are mid sized, so likely don't have room for such a tranny. Seems to me that Tremec makes one of the right size factor, and is also compatible with a transfer case, but now you're getting into a very low take rate, so the economy of scale dies. We are a loud minority of those wanting the manual, but it won't help, unfortunately. If it's any consolation, I hear the 850RE is a very good transmission.

 

[TexTJ209]

It's a different category and fitment.

Not intending to flame here, just my observations.

Stands to reason the Cummins is mated to a BF truck transmission. The JL & JT are mid sized, so likely don't have room for such a tranny. Seems to me that Tremec makes one of the right size factor, and is also compatible with a transfer case, but now you're getting into a very low take rate, so the economy of scale dies. We are a loud minority of those wanting the manual, but it won't help, unfortunately. If it's any consolation, I hear the 850RE is a very good transmission.

I know you're 100% right, but I really wish you were wrong. lol

 

[JLUfan]

I know you're 100% right, but I really wish you were wrong. lol

… As do I. I thought that was a nice nonflaming reply.

 

[Vegas_Sirk]

It's a different category and fitment.

Not intending to flame here, just my observations.

Stands to reason the Cummins is mated to a BF truck transmission. The JL & JT are mid sized, so likely don't have room for such a tranny. Seems to me that Tremec makes one of the right size factor, and is also compatible with a transfer case, but now you're getting into a very low take rate, so the economy of scale dies. We are a loud minority of those wanting the manual, but it won't help, unfortunately. If it's any consolation, I hear the 850RE is a very good transmission.

Yep its more the low % of buyers. They said say in general across all cars the manual transmission rate is less then 3% of all cars sold. I saw a figure and somewhere (cant find it any more) and I remember it being under 10% for the Wrangler.

 

[audibahn]

Thanks for the update! Exciting to see more details.

Is the ZF 8HP75 transmission still going to be mated with the diesel? I only see the 850RE transmission mentioned.

 

[JLUfan]

Thanks for the update! Exciting to see more details.

Is the ZF 8HP75 transmission still going to be mated with the diesel? I only see the 850RE transmission mentioned.

Yep its more the low % of buyers. They said say in general across all cars the manual transmission rate is less then 3% of all cars sold. I saw a figure and somewhere (cant find it any more) and I remember it being under 10% for the Wrangler.

I understand the low percentage, but on something that is going to be relatively high volume, low percentages still mean hi raw numbers. I hereby sweeten the deal by stating I will buy several of them if they would just make the darn things.

 

[Zip6711]

This is all very true as is if there is a will there is a way my guess will be within the first 2 years we will see a build of someone taking a manual building it up and putting it in the diesel or vise versa someone pulling a gas out and dropping diesel in ether build wont be cheep but cool to read about

 

[Renegade]

Humm ... so it looks like the glass will be 1pc ... going to be a awkward piece to take off.

“Sliding” doesn’t necessarily mean 1-piece. TBD...

 

[Vegas_Sirk]

“Sliding” doesn’t necessarily mean 1-piece. TBD...

True ... but I based that off the (3) PC Hardtop as if you think about it, it will be the two panels above the driver and passanger and then the back part similar to the current JL top. I guess it really spends on which direction the sliding of the glass goes. If it slides down or to the side.

 

[TexTJ209]

“Sliding” doesn’t necessarily mean 1-piece. TBD...

I hope they're meaning a full power retractable rear window that slides into a compartment behind the rear seat and then the hard top can be removed sans window. But sliding is just an odd way of putting it. To me a sliding rear window is generally the traditional "beer window." So I don't know. We haven't seen anything like that on the mules.

 

[Vegas_Sirk]

I really hope its power and goes down. But my bet is its not.

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