2022 JTRD stolen from driveway (don't let it happen to you)

[Geowar]

You can buy the faraday pouches all day long on fleabay or amazon. I have them for the Harley, Vette, and now the Gladiator. I have tested all the keys with the pouches and they will not allow data or signal transmission.

does the jeep fob fit into a small faraday pouch?

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[SargeDiesel]

My wife couldn't start the Jeep with me holding the key in my pocket standing at the front of the Jeep without any RFID blocking.

Sounds like your battery is about dead... not sure I get your point ?

 

[ZoMojave]

Sounds like your battery is about dead... not sure I get your point ?

I think the point was that the fob has to very close to dash area to communicate and start vehicle. No faraday bag and full battery power.

Yes, a separate issue from fob signal protection that blocks copy devices that duplicate in order for thieves to get to test drive your Jeep.

 

[Gvsukids]

Sounds like your battery is about dead... not sure I get your point ?

If I'm only able to start the vehicle while being inside if it, I'm not worried about someone stealing the signal.

 

[SargeDiesel]

If I'm only able to start the vehicle while being inside if it, I'm not worried about someone stealing the signal.

From my understanding, thats not how it works

 

[sharpsicle]

If I'm only able to start the vehicle while being inside if it, I'm not worried about someone stealing the signal.

Not how it works. And even so, they would just replicate it inside the Jeep to start it. Nobody ever said they're starting it from the outside.

 

[mrmo]

does the jeep fob fit into a small faraday pouch?

I bought a couple of them off on amazon, for the harley, corvette and now the jeep. tested them all and they work fine. just measure and look for a convenient size, there will be several sizes avail

 

[905_gladiator]

for those of you saying airtags don't work.....well it sure AF worked here! I have two in each of my vehicles

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/man-uses-apple-airtag-track-164633678.html

 

[MyRight]

If I'm only able to start the vehicle while being inside if it, I'm not worried about someone stealing the signal.

Mine has remote start option, so I don't have to be inside the cab to start it.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

for those of you saying airtags don't work.....well it sure AF worked here! I have two in each of my vehicles

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/man-uses-apple-airtag-track-164633678.html

They can - but it's hit and miss. And around here with so few apple devices, don't count on it.
There's also examples out there in the news of one being tracked by those devices, but they were never able to actually FIND it regardless of positions being reported.
Smart thieves can disable them without even finding them. You can jam the signal.
A thief with the tech to steal a Jeep may have the tech on their phone to jam the signals from ATs.
I've seen articles on how to do a DoS on BT using python- meaning I could prevent BT items from working around our house if I wanted to by running the command on this computer I'm using now.
Don't put them in the cab - put them in very hard to access places OUTSIDE of the cab. (like behind the tail lights, up in the area of the body mounts, above cross members, etc.) - places the signal isn't weakened by stuff between devices, and places that a thief won't hear it if it's forced by the thief to reveal itself. (unless you destroy the on-board speaker, a thief can make it sound-off. )

Sure, go ahead and use the ATs. It's cheap and like so many simple things, may stop the uneducated thief or joy-rider (which is quite a few of them actually) but if they are pros and serious, they'll find the critters or jam the signals. (I found a company selling BT jammers as well as the code needed to cause flooding of BT devices, basically DoS attacks. I may try that one here to see if I can kill some BT connections to see how well it works)

Not saying to not try everything - anti-theft has to be multi-faceted, but don't rely on that as a way to recover. By the time some thieves are done, you may not want it back.
And around here there aren't enough devices within 30-50 feet to communicate with Apples UWB technology.

 

[RudeJeepin]

What about one of those GPS dog collars?

 

[ShadowsPapa]

What about one of those GPS dog collars?

Jamming. It's been reported that many stolen vehicles (not all, not even a majority) end up having the built-in GPS disabled in some way.
Since they can thwart the GPS tracking of the vehicle itself, why not jam a simple dog collar?

But like anything else - why not try it? So many thieves aren't pros, a lot of vehicles are stolen because they can be stolen and don't end up going all that far anyway.
Again, multi-faceted approaches are better than relying on one single method of preventing theft or tracking the stolen vehicle.
If I lived in an area where it was a big problem - I'd probably throw as many things at it as I could think of.

From the internet (and if I was a thief, I'd be prepared with the devices or software on a tablet or phone to jam it all, everything I could )

A GPS jammer is typically a small, self-contained frequency transmitter that can send an interference signal within a 5 to 10 meter range. Devices typically plug into a vehicle's cigarette lighter or USB/charging port and require a low amount of power. Although illegal in many places, GPS jammers can be purchased online in various types, including Wi-Fi jammers, Bluetooth jammers, remote control jammers and drone jammers.

People seem to not understand that if it exists, someone has found a way to kill it.
Pros will not only have the devices to relay FOB signals, but they will be able to jam things too, if they are smart, and likely for no more cost than the relay boxes they use to take the vehicle to begin with.

Is it worth trying to track a stolen vehicle? Yeah, roughly 40% do get recovered anyway so you may boost your odds to 42% probability so it's worth a shot but certainly don't rely on that because there's greater odds it can't be found, and at least some possibility the thief is high tech and spent $100 bucks on a jammer.

 

[RudeJeepin]

Its been years ago, we had someone get into our car and take the change out of the cup holder. Probably just young punks, cause that's all they took. They left the driver door slightly open or I'd probably never even realized it.
So I took a couple horns I had laying around from my CJ5, wired them to a cordless drill battery with a relay and then used the dome light to trigger it.
Couple nights later the horns went off, never had another issue after that.
Maybe a couple hidden train horns triggered by the dome light.

I live in the outskirts of a small town where theft really isn't an issue, so overall I'm not really worried.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Its been years ago, we had someone get into our car and take the change out of the cup holder. Probably just young punks, cause that's all they took. They left the driver door slightly open or I'd probably never even realized it.
So I took a couple horns I had laying around from my CJ5, wired them to a cordless drill battery with a relay and then used the dome light to trigger it.
Couple nights later the horns went off, never had another issue after that.
Maybe a couple hidden train horns triggered by the dome light.

I live in the outskirts of a small town where theft really isn't an issue, so overall I'm not really worried.

Around here most thefts take place because of easy access, often the fault of the owners. Des Moines police seem to say that half of the thefts were made easier by things the owner did not do - like locking doors, rolling up windows, or what they did do, like leaving keys/fobs in the vehicle, sometimes in the cup holder or on the console (yeah, people can be that stupid or ignorant)
Usually thefts of things from a vehicle are similar - they can look in and see stuff, purses, phones, computers, money, whatever, and the vehicle isn't locked or windows are left down or it's parked where it's isolated.
Then there's stuff you just can't do a lot about - like happens in a string of blocks in a city where windows are smashed out of a dozen cars parked along the street or in driveways in a several block area and the insides ransacked and stuff stolen.
To this day you see where there are reports of a dozen or more windows being shot out by pellet guns, or windshields being smashed by bats (not the mammal type, they don't do a lot of damage).

There are times I wish there was a way to do what we did when I was in college and you wanted to keep someone from messing with your tools - you rig up the spark plug tester to the tool box.
Maybe use dye packs or something if you want to stay legal since booby-traps are illegal in most places.

 

[Gvsukids]

Mine has remote start option, so I don't have to be inside the cab to start it.

Me too, and I use the Jeep app to remote start.

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