3.0l Hurricane

[Billkowski]

I think your right on this. Plus its easier for them to can the manuals rather than fix em. My next Jeep will be a Willys Wrangler Manual 24' or newer. I don't think i'll bother with getting a newer gladiator cus I honestly don't think they'll get better to a point worth trading on. I'll just 392 swap mine eventually and leaver her as a garage princess/family trail/tow rig built the way Jeep should have. Then DD and wheel the piss out of the new wrangler. I find myself wanting something simpler for the 90 percent of solo time I spend in a car. If EVs are decent by 2027 i might even get one just for DD. But I think I'd spend for time efficiently with a 2 door wrangler running minimalist for overlanding when i'm by myself. and I'm usually by myself. I love my Mojave, but its everything, even when you don't want/need it. I'll give it a year or two and finish her out for expedition use. Then she can sit in the stable for intended use only. I got a buddy trying to talk me into a CANOO electric mini truck for a daily. NGL i kinda dig the looks and having the only wear items be brakes and tires. A little too easy.

The Canoo just might talk me into an electric vehicle, it just looks right for what it is...unlike the tesla truck.

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[PuddleJumper]

The Canoo just might talk me into an electric vehicle, it just looks right for what it is...unlike the tesla truck.

i feel like it acutal utilizes the advantages of an EV platform. The FOV on those is insane. Plus its a repairable platform and battery swappable. so its not a throw away EV. As battery technology moves forward, you can replace cheaper and maybe even upgrade.

 

[Sweetums]

The Canoo just might talk me into an electric vehicle, it just looks right for what it is...unlike the tesla truck.

The Canoo is a very neat design, but their finacials are worrying to say the least. The CEO also owns a private jet charter company and a significant portion of the company budget appears to be there to funnel Canoo's money to the CEO's other corporations.

After watching Fisker and a bunch of other upstart EV companies fail or die as vaporware, I'm not going to risk buying a vehicle unless the company has been around, is stable, and has a dealer/service network in place. If I wanted an expensive low-volume vehicle without any dealer support I'd fill my garage with Alfa Romeo, Bimota, and Moto Guzzi

 

[PuddleJumper]

The Canoo is a very neat design, but their finacials are worrying to say the least. The CEO also owns a private jet charter company and a significant portion of the company budget appears to be there to funnel Canoo's money to the CEO's other corporations.

After watching Fisker and a bunch of other upstart EV companies fail or die as vaporware, I'm not going to risk buying a vehicle unless the company has been around, is stable, and has a dealer/service network in place. If I wanted an expensive low-volume vehicle without any dealer support I'd fill my garage with Alfa Romeo, Bimota, and Moto Guzzi

Oh i'm not buying till they have dealerships and cars on lots

 

[legacy_etu]

The Canoo is a very neat design, but their finacials are worrying to say the least. The CEO also owns a private jet charter company and a significant portion of the company budget appears to be there to funnel Canoo's money to the CEO's other corporations.

After watching Fisker and a bunch of other upstart EV companies fail or die as vaporware, I'm not going to risk buying a vehicle unless the company has been around, is stable, and has a dealer/service network in place. If I wanted an expensive low-volume vehicle without any dealer support I'd fill my garage with Alfa Romeo, Bimota, and Moto Guzzi

Don't forget Lotus.

 

[biodiesel]

We lived through the golden age of cars unfortunately, it's all downhill from here unless you prefer electric/hybrid drivetrains. Anyone that jumped at a 392 or EcoDiesel got the last of a dying breed.

I agree with you, which is why I bought a 2023 Gladiator EcoDiesel. I wasn't in the best financial position to buy one, but between the discounts and knowing this was the end of diesels in the light duty segment, I made the finances work. I have no regrets.

 

[Billkowski]

The Canoo is a very neat design, but their finacials are worrying to say the least. The CEO also owns a private jet charter company and a significant portion of the company budget appears to be there to funnel Canoo's money to the CEO's other corporations.

After watching Fisker and a bunch of other upstart EV companies fail or die as vaporware, I'm not going to risk buying a vehicle unless the company has been around, is stable, and has a dealer/service network in place. If I wanted an expensive low-volume vehicle without any dealer support I'd fill my garage with Alfa Romeo, Bimota, and Moto Guzzi

I did say "might"

 

[bleda2002]

The 3.6 is definitely not going anywhere. I'm sure it will soldier on as an engine for the 4xe/Hybrid platforms, and is also going to be the Range Extender in the Ram REV so possibly for the wrangler REV ~'28/'29 when it launches as well. Personally I'm expecting a 3.6 based gladiator 4xe just for cooling reasons. No i dont have any inside info, but they already use it with the pacifica in an mpg style hybrid, so it doesnt seem unreasonable to me that they'd combine the wrangler 4xe with the pacifica hybrid to make a 3.6 based high output hybrid instead.

 

[Sweetums]

Don't forget Lotus.

I can at least get parts for that from a Toyota dealer.

 

[legacy_etu]

I can at least get parts for that from a Toyota dealer.

Sure, but it's not the engine that's problematic. It's the other stuff, like programming, harnesses, windshields, lights, etc.

 

[Sweetums]

Sure, but it's not the engine that's problematic. It's the other stuff, like programming, harnesses, windshields, lights, etc.

That's just the Experience of British Car Ownership™.

 

[Teqsand]

Anyone actually measured the hurricane to see if it will even fit in the JL/JT engine bay?

 

[PuddleJumper]

Anyone actually measured the hurricane to see if it will even fit in the JL/JT engine bay?

it does just fine. idk why everyone says it wont package. Its slightly longer than a hemi and those fit with room to spare. besides the wagoneer the 3.0 resides in isn't exactly roomy itself either.

 

[bleda2002]

Anyone actually measured the hurricane to see if it will even fit in the JL/JT engine bay?

AEV confirmed it does not fit. Its 4 inches longer than the hemi, which barely fit and is cooling limited already so this hurricane would be even worse. It would take a redesign of the firewall/engine bay to find more space or make more space like jeep did when it extended the engine bay to fit the 4.0.

 

[Sweetums]

That was published 6 months ago and it was BS then.

I used to roll in a Nissan Xterra, every year after that model was killed off there was some no-name blog or YouTuber claiming to have insider knowledge of the model's return. They always had the same concept drawings done by a fan, but never anything from Nissan, no trademark filings, no copyright filings for upcoming ads, no documentation about DOT or EPA compliance testing.

These guys want the low-effort views, don't feed them.

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