4xe Gladiator Hybrid (PHEV) Confirmed by Jeep CEO for 2025! ⚡️

[rubicon4wheeler]

Put it in 4H auto - otherwise it limits torque to the wheels - traction control.

Too bad people test driving the 4xe don't realize - for full appreciation, you need it in 4HA.

I wish I'd known that before. I wasn't impressed with its acceleration, but this makes perfect sense.

there's no lag - I can blow others away from a dead stop with our 4xe. The electric is there instantly and the engine kicks in and the first eighth mile is killer. You'll lose in the full quarter mile, but off the line for the first bit, there's no real lag and it will beat a diesel off the line.

I suppose this is true for when the engine is already on and warmed-up and you're accelerating from a dead stop. The lag I was referring to was experienced when driving on the electric motor and then dipping into the accelerator pedal while rolling. The problem was compounded when the engine hadn't even run yet and wanted to kick on when (for example) accelerating on a freeway onramp after driving around town on just the motor.

While driving steady-state on the gas engine, the immediate acceleration when stepping down is impressive, exhibiting none of the slight turbo lag that I'm accustomed to.

I'm really curious to see how the Gladiator 4xe turns out.

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[legacy_etu]

….or a very small constant rate turbine engine

just imagine saying “yeah, my jeep has a jet engine, no big deal”

LOL, and sound like an M1 abrams tank driving by.

 

[Iam_Gladiator]

I’m really curious if it’s going to be the same engine as the wrangler is a 3.6 hybrid.

You mean 2.0 l four?

 

[Iam_Gladiator]

The Mojave's entire suspension would need changed for the weight and weight distribution. Not going to happen on that trim just like the diesel engine never happened on it.

Mojave, being the best trim , I doubt ever gets serious changes. The X is about it...steel bumpers...and that only required a simple spring change.

Well the pentastar will be put out to pasture more likely to be replaced by a variant of the hurricane I6. I can see that as the intended replacement before I see EV or even hybrid.

 

[Iam_Gladiator]

LOL, and sound like an M1 abrams tank driving by.

Would have to ask Jay Leno about that.

 

[Andy@AAV]

This was a disappointing week, looks like no 4XE this year unless they make it a "late availability" thing.

 

[legacy_etu]

This was a disappointing week, looks like no 4XE this year unless they make it a "late availability" thing.

Yeah, seems like Stellantis is disappointing lots of folks with the powertrain options these days. On the JL side of things they announced that you can only get the 4 cylinder with the automatic in 25.

 

[TheDerb]

This was a disappointing week, looks like no 4XE this year unless they make it a "late availability" thing.

We aren't going to get a 4xe Gladiator.

I am well aware that the CEO didn't deny a 4xe Gladiator when the Trail Recon guy asked him, but I am ABSOLUTELY convinced that we will never see a 4xe Gladiator. I just cannot imagine retooling EVERYTHING for the damn thing, adding a $15,000 premium to get 4xe, and slapping that on a dealer lot next to a bunch of other Gladatiors that they already can't sell for MSRP.

I've said it for the past couple of years: I'm happy to be wrong, but I simply do not see a 4xe Gladiator happening.

You can look at my post history and see I've been skeptical of the 4xe since it was even mentioned.

 

[Vtur]

We aren't going to get a 4xe Gladiator.

I am well aware that the CEO didn't deny a 4xe Gladiator when the Trail Recon guy asked him, but I am ABSOLUTELY convinced that we will never see a 4xe Gladiator. I just cannot imagine retooling EVERYTHING for the damn thing, adding a $15,000 premium to get 4xe, and slapping that on a dealer lot next to a bunch of other Gladatiors that they already can't sell for MSRP.

I've said it for the past couple of years: I'm happy to be wrong, but I simply do not see a 4xe Gladiator happening.

You can look at my post history and see I've been skeptical of the 4xe since it was even mentioned.

They are retooling the assembly line for the 4xe atm.

 

[sunrise089]

They are retooling the assembly line for the 4xe atm.

Do you have any evidence of this?

Certainly they didn’t say the 4xe WOULDN'T come out early in 2025, but they have been very careful to never say MY25 and they just made their Wranger+Gladiator model year update announcement with very little to sell. If the 4xe was coming soon I’d think they’d be saying that. For instance the Wagoneer S and Recon EVs get talked about constantly by their PR dept.

 

[Vtur]

Do you have any evidence of this?

Certainly they didn’t say the 4xe WOULDN'T come out early in 2025, but they have been very careful to never say MY25 and they just made their Wranger+Gladiator model year update announcement with very little to sell. If the 4xe was coming soon I’d think they’d be saying that. For instance the Wagoneer S and Recon EVs get talked about constantly by their PR dept.

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[dew3]

Why are the ev downers lurking in the 4xe phev thread?

Have rented a Lightning, tesla, test drove a mach-e. Own a phev and ev. At the very least a range extended ev or phev are the future. Faster, more efficient, and the acceleration is fantastic. Also, I have more production from solar roof panels even with the various charging, hvac, etc.

Didn't the Ford f150 with backup electric power also save texas' bacon a few winters ago? Having a vehicle in your driveway with the potential for backup power sounds good to me.

A gladiator ramcharger equivalent would be perfect. More torque, faster acceleration, more payload and tow power. For any doubters, look up diesel electric powered trains. It's not necessarily a new or unproven technology.

 

[Breadman]

Why are the ev downers lurking in the 4xe phev thread?

Because their daddy didn't hug them and this is their only outlet for the big feelings and emotions they can't express in public for fear of being considered a sissy.

 

[Alc]

Not sure they are “EV haters” just gladiator lovers who want to know the future of the gladiator for their next potential vehicle. EVs aren’t even a thought for the gladiator yet and the PHeV seems kicked down the road for unannounced reasons. The sanity of an off-road vehicle that’s an EV is still confusing to me. Gas/diesel can be ferried via roof, trunk, bed whatever…electricity can’t unless you pray for a spot to camp without trees and a cloudless day and transport a solar panel setup. Like it’s been said, the ram charger concept is fascinating and is proven in locomotives but to be fair that has a completely different usage: moving countless tons over no more than a 4 degree slope and taking mile(s) to stop if needed. They also have very little emissions requirements because it’s all about emissions pollution per tonnage vs pollution per mile. All those might be able to be overcome but I don’t know and our government prefers and backs certain technology over others making R&D in those unbacked techs too costly despite being superior. We often try to use Europe as an example of what transportation methods work (like their train system or their EV implementation) but NA and the US are just different with massive amounts of unpopulated land which just isn’t common over there. That distance of unpopulated area is the enemy of electricity distribution. At the end of the day EVs are great for some, PHeVs are great for some and ICE are great for some…as long as we have a choice but right now we don’t in the gladiator which is concerning for its future.

 

[dew3]

Gas/diesel can be ferried via roof, trunk, bed whatever…electricity can’t unless you pray for a spot to camp without trees and a cloudless day and transport a solar panel setup. Like it’s been said, the ram charger concept is fascinating and is proven in locomotives but to be fair that has a completely different usage: moving countless tons over no more than a 4 degree slope and taking mile(s) to stop if needed.

The Ramcharger has an engine that you put gas in. The same engine in a bunch of fca lineage vehicles. An engine that has encountered everything a jeep, ram, whatever could throw at it including angles, towing, range, etc. The Ramcharger also has brakes. The braking distances of a train has nothing to do with anything.

I get change can be off-putting. But there are a ton of advantages to some of the new developments. A gladiator Ramcharger would be perfect and a much simpler design/process than the wranglers 4xe hybrid mishmash. More power, better efficiency, 'gas stop' range extension, better towing. All the attributes proven from an engine performance perspective from diesel electric trains. Engine generates electricity to run powerful electric motors.

I'm hoping the gladiator phev has been hidden so that a gladiatorcharger concept will be revealed. It should be easier to implement than the wrangler 4xe model design.

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