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So I should leave my delete in place? 42 fuse out and neg aux cable disconnected? Sounds good.
if you are certain you do not want the aux battery you can remove it, pull fuse 42 and remove the aux battery cables. But you will have to make a jumper between N1 and N3. Theres a few threads here on that.

Or you could always just leave the battery in place but if its not being used at all the only thing that will happen is the battery going bad over time. Plus it will have a charged voltage.

If you do want it gone IMO its best to remove it all together. I left my wires in place and taped them ip and stuffed them back in the aux battery location without the battery there to avoid having to un-tape the wire harness. Still need to make tat jumper between N1 and N3 though
 

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What happens if I let it function normally, without pushing the disable button?
It will work normally until the main battery starts to degrade. The purpose of the Aux battery is to keep the computers and electronics stable during ESS events. Having all the computers reboot from low voltage when ESS tries to restart the engine will cause a bit of a delay for you.
 

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It will work normally until the main battery starts to degrade. The purpose of the Aux battery is to keep the computers and electronics stable during ESS events. Having all the computers reboot from low voltage when ESS tries to restart the engine will cause a bit of a delay for you.
I wonder if anyone has run into an actual problem with that though. Just letting ESS do its thing with the aux battery gone. I wouldn't think anything would really go wrong since the system would restart the truck before voltage gets too low.
 

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I wonder if anyone has run into an actual problem with that though. Just letting ESS do its thing with the aux battery gone. I wouldn't think anything would really go wrong since the system would restart the truck before voltage gets too low.
I have not read about anyone dealing with this. Those that do the Aux delete usually don't let ESS activate. If the voltage level is low enough, ESS won't activate. There are the marginal systems where the voltage level may be just high enough for it to activate, but have a sudden drop when the starter spins. That is theory, though, with no known cases reported.
 
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I wonder if anyone has run into an actual problem with that though. Just letting ESS do its thing with the aux battery gone. I wouldn't think anything would really go wrong since the system would restart the truck before voltage gets too low.
I have not read about anyone dealing with this. Those that do the Aux delete usually don't let ESS activate. If the voltage level is low enough, ESS won't activate. There are the marginal systems where the voltage level may be just high enough for it to activate, but have a sudden drop when the starter spins. That is theory, though, with no known cases reported.
I am going to keep the aux deleted and let the auto stop/start function normally (leaving it on) and see how it goes without any issues ?
 

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I am going to keep the aux deleted and let the auto stop/start function normally (leaving it on) and see how it goes without any issues ?
With the new 94R battery, you should be good for a couple years. Just watch for the ESS or Aux switch unavailable messages on the center screen. Those are the indicators that battery maintenance is needed.
 
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if you are certain you do not want the aux battery you can remove it, pull fuse 42 and remove the aux battery cables. But you will have to make a jumper between N1 and N3. Theres a few threads here on that.

Or you could always just leave the battery in place but if its not being used at all the only thing that will happen is the battery going bad over time. Plus it will have a charged voltage.

If you do want it gone IMO its best to remove it all together. I left my wires in place and taped them ip and stuffed them back in the aux battery location without the battery there to avoid having to un-tape the wire harness. Still need to make tat jumper between N1 and N3 though
Why the jumper? Everything is working fine without it now. What is the purpose of doing it?
 

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Why the jumper? Everything is working fine without it now. What is the purpose of doing it?
If all you have removed is the negative cable from the aux battery, you do not need the jumper.

If you remove the two positive cables from the aux battery and on N1 of the fuse array and the other end from the PCR, you will then need a jumper between N1 and N3.
 

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2021 Mojave, 38 months old with 35,0000 miles.
Auto start/stop quit working at 24 months, dealer replaced aux battery under warranty. Took 1 week for auto start stop to start working again.
3 months ago auto start stop quit working again.
Pulled the 42 fuse and the negative lead from the aux battery at the main battery terminal. Left the aux battery in place. (Delete complete).
2 days ago, Main battery goes out. Normal for Las Vegas, 3 years is typical life span.
Replaced main battery with the larger group 94r
Size. Did NOT reverse the aux delete.
All fine now Including the auto. Start/stop working normally! Why ????????
Because that aux battery delete and pulling the fuse has nothing to do with ESS.

Then what exactly does the so called bypass do?
Just takes the aux battery offline - that is all, nothing more.
 

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if you are certain you do not want the aux battery you can remove it, pull fuse 42 and remove the aux battery cables. But you will have to make a jumper between N1 and N3. Theres a few threads here on that.

Or you could always just leave the battery in place but if its not being used at all the only thing that will happen is the battery going bad over time. Plus it will have a charged voltage.

If you do want it gone IMO its best to remove it all together. I left my wires in place and taped them ip and stuffed them back in the aux battery location without the battery there to avoid having to un-tape the wire harness. Still need to make tat jumper between N1 and N3 though
Now you are confusing him with more complex steps - he's not understood the first steps quite yet.

I wonder if anyone has run into an actual problem with that though. Just letting ESS do its thing with the aux battery gone. I wouldn't think anything would really go wrong since the system would restart the truck before voltage gets too low.
Someone here has installed a battery that matched the combined capacity of the two original batteries and there's no reason it shouldn't be ok.
It's one of those things - we'll not know until he's got some serious time and miles on it.

Why the jumper? Everything is working fine without it now. What is the purpose of doing it?
I'd leave it exactly as it is - especially if you may ever need a real dealer to work on the truck.
 

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What happens if I let it function normally, without pushing the disable button?
The system compares the battery voltages during an auto stop and if it reads the same voltage on both batteries, (which it does if it's only using one battery) six times in a row, it concludes there is a defect with the system and disables the auto stop until the next cold start.
 
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Update:
So yesterday I got the dreaded “auto stop/start needs service” Light and warning. At the next motor shut down and start, same day, warning light was off and all working normal again.???
This is so bizarre?
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