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[AXISJT]

3.5" lift and it looks like you have quite a bit of negative offset. You've moved a lot around.
That said, if it was an issue before the lift and tires, then I'd be looking at components again.
Steering gearbox bolts, Pitman arm nut, ball joints, trackbar, bearings... literally everything from the steering column the where the tires meet the road.

Did they give you a printout of your final alignment?

They went through all of that complete full nuts and bolts check. Loosened retightened and marked ball joints are good. They're fairly new. I do have to print out of the alignment. I can post it later tonight

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[Free2roam]

I did end up buying the metal cloak sector shaft brace hoping that solves a little bit of a problem along with a little toe in or toe out

 

[Free2roam]

I'm still struggling with the wobble. I just had it aligned. Less that 10 miles on current alignment. Everything has been torqued. Tires balanced again. Next try is the Metalcloak sector shaft brace. Lots of good reviews on their setup. Notice anything out of the ordinary? 48k on the odometer

 

[Lunentucker]

I'm still struggling with the wobble. I just had it aligned. Less that 10 miles on current alignment. Everything has been torqued. Tires balanced again. Next try is the Metalcloak sector shaft brace. Lots of good reviews on their setup. Notice anything out of the ordinary? 48k on the odometer

Including ball joints?

 

[Free2roam]

Including ball joints?

As in torqued? They did a complete shakedown of it. They said they checked the ball joints.
Edit:
Called them back and that is a negative on torquing the ball joints. If the weather holds out this weekend I'll do that myself.

 

[Lunentucker]

As in torqued? They did a complete shakedown of it. They said they checked the ball joints.

Something has to be loose, bent, or otherwise out of sorts for it to continue to shake, wobbly, shimmy.
It's hard to sit here and guess what it may be, but it's fixable.

 

[Free2roam]

Something has to be loose, bent, or otherwise out of sorts for it to continue to shake, wobbly, shimmy.
It's hard to sit here and guess what it may be, but it's fixable.

Sounds to me like I'll be upgrading the steering as well plus the sector shaft brace, ball joints, etc etc etc.
Just
Empty
Every
Pocket

 

[ttn333]

Sounds to me like I'll be upgrading the steering as well plus the sector shaft brace, ball joints, etc etc etc.
Just
Empty
Every
Pocket

You can say that again. Got the wobble fixed. Have new falcon nexus stabilizer and 2.5 ton steering components sitting here ready for install. But that will have to wait cause cel is on and I'm getting p0300, p0171 and p0137. Oh, just put in a new starter battery the other day too. The fun keeps on coming.

 

[Free2roam]

Beating a dead horse here. What caster are most people running on a 2.5 lift? Mines Clayton 2.5 overland. If I adjust the LCA out half a turn and the UPA in a half turn. Is that the same as one full turn on the LCA? I'm at 5.9 and 6.1 on caster.

 

[Lunentucker]

Beating a dead horse here. What caster are most people running on a 2.5 lift? Mines Clayton 2.5 overland. If I adjust the LCA out half a turn and the UPA in a half turn. Is that the same as one full turn on the LCA? I'm at 5.9 and 6.1 on caster.

Not saying this is gospel, but it may be a good reference.

https://www.jeepgladiatorforum.com/forum/threads/steps-to-adjust-control-arms.37311/#post-604499

 

[Lunentucker]

And here's the chart for your lift.

 

[Free2roam]

And here's the chart for your lift.

I wonder how much a 1/16th inch is on degrees of caster? 24 5/16 passenger side. 24 1/4 drivers side. LCA although didn't measure the UCA. Might take into account the difference in caster some. 5.9 on DS and 6.1 PS. Could mean the difference between degrees of caster and death wobble. Being as it seems to happen almost always when I hit a bump on the DS of the truck.

 

[Mad Mac]

Forgive me, but is there a connection
between lift and wobble.

Or in other words, do stock Gladiators
suffer from the death wobble.

 

[Free2roam]

Forgive me, but is there a connection
between lift and wobble.

Or in other words, do stock Gladiators
suffer from the death wobble.

Stock mine never did. Just have to dial it in.

 

[Lunentucker]

Forgive me, but is there a connection
between lift and wobble.

Or in other words, do stock Gladiators
suffer from the death wobble.

They certainly can. Any solid axle front can.
It can be exacerbated by lift, but a properly done lift, with geometry correction measures, can drive as good or better than stock.

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