Entire Jeep lineup electrified by end of 2025

Davekayc · Feb 10, 2023

Entire family drives jeeps since the 70s . 9 jeeps currently. None of us will switch to electric . My end of days vehicle is going to be completely analog .

AmosMoses · Feb 10, 2023

The only new EV iam excited about is the Canoe. Not sure I'd ever buy one but it's a neat, modular with lots of interior room.

Gvsukids · Feb 10, 2023

Jackpaul said:
I look at the reality of this whole debate… EV for off-road is fun, but towing, hauling and all the other stuff that comes along with our needs just hasn’t been figured out.

Or cold weather.

BAT · Feb 10, 2023

bleda2002 said:
Fully agree on pure BEVs. That's where phevs and fuel cells are the other 2 technologies that will carry where bev doesn't work. I don't see all of us driving pure BEVs, they're great at what they're great at, but they have limitations. Phevs and fuel cells though carry most of the advantages of a BEV but with out a lot of limitations (well hydrogen infrastructure still sucks but that could be built out fairly easily like building more gas stations). I'm not interested in a BEV, but PHEV would suit my needs just fine as to me I see it as a power adder first.

Also Tesla reported their new battery plant is bringing costs so far down a 25k stripper ev is now realistic and the model 3 is trending similar to average car values. As more manufacturers get in on this and battery costs continue to come down the tipping point for PHEV/bev/fuel cell is coming closer and closer imo. Once they can swap the 15 year old batteries for sub 10k it will be really hard to argue against them for 90% of people's needs.

They need to pull in the dealerships off of their crazy pricing. We were looking at a plug in hybrid to replace me wifes car. The prices on some of them would have been affordable until the dealerships tacked on their $20K additional charges. By the time we were done shopping around she had enough and just said to hell with it I am just going to keep my car

DirkG · Feb 10, 2023

Yeah I admit it, I'll come up strong on a tailgating Prius in the fast lane and call him a dipsh^t Ecoweenie. I've never owned an EV and probably won't in the near future. But no matter what charts we post or arguments we make, at the end of the day, a four-door Tesla S Plaid will smoke a Lamborghini Aventador. And won't sip a drop of gasoline doing it.

So take away the government bullsh^t and hairy arm-pitted activists, what we have is a superior propulsion system. For most driving. The ICE will remain, yes, and no matter what Elon conjures up, I don't see large-scale truck transportation going electric anytime soon.

The infrastructure concern is real. And we've already seen serious pushback from inner-city and minority communities about EVs costs. It's not a slam dunk by any means. But if Jeep can build me a more powerful Gladiator that sips less (or no) gas, I'd be stupid not to at least consider it.

Casique · Feb 10, 2023

Spoke to a Tesla owner last year when I drove my kid to college, VA to FL. The dude had been waiting in line to charge his Tesla for over 8 hours! Had to wait in line first, then charge to continue. Hell no, his trip went from 2 days, to almost 4 by the time he charged!

Minty JL · Feb 10, 2023

legacy_etu said:
You still got it? I'd read it.

Agreed.

I like facts........not opinions or emotions

bleda2002 · Feb 10, 2023

Terry said:
I don't act like that at all, but perhaps you should get your head out of your ass and understand that a cellular phone has become a necessity in life, and has... are you ready... only a fraction of the mineral content of an electric vehicle battery. So go hug your Tesla and shut the hell up.

If he's got a Tesla there is a high chance he is nickel and cobalt free since over 50% of their sales are lfp batteries. Which...are you ready....means its less than your cell phone ?

IanNubbit · Feb 10, 2023

I feel like this thread is kind of a mute point. As to Jeep, electrified dosent mean it has to be plug in, just in some electric propelled. Just the E-Torque 3.6 counts as electrified. And again, thats not EVERY jeep made, thats just offering it on every model.

Tupacshakur · Feb 10, 2023

bleda2002 said:
I always wonder if they just called it an electric power adder or ultra charger or something and deleted the ev button would people instead think it's the best thing since sliced bread since it turns the 2.0 into a V8 with diesel city mpgs.

Good call. Definitely needs to be something Really Manly so the Real American Man knows it was built specifically for them. Like Long Horn or Big Horn or something equally as homoerotic.

I would propose "The Power Bottom" or "The Brokeback"... that would give a clear indication of what it's packing and surely get their Real Manly American Juices flowing.

Fishee · Feb 10, 2023

bleda2002 said:
If he's got a Tesla there is a high chance he is nickel and cobalt free since over 50% of their sales are lfp batteries. Which...are you ready....means its less than your cell phone ?

Looks like his post was removed...and no I don't own a Tesla but if they came out with a hybrid Gladiator that wasnt WAY overpriced and helped get better gas mileagei would consider it. Talk about striking a nerve lol Someone's off their meds...

Jteakus · Feb 11, 2023

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Tupacshakur said:
Good call. Definitely needs to be something Really Manly so the Real American Man knows it was built specifically for them. Like Long Horn or Big Horn or something equally as homoerotic.

I would propose "The Power Bottom" or "The Brokeback"... that would give a clear indication of what it's packing and surely get their Real Manly American Juices flowing.

How does a conversation about vehicle propulsion turn into a conversation about smoking D?

Pescatoral Pursuit · Feb 11, 2023

chorky said:
this push for electric is really not going to do well for a lot of people.

Wait till you see what it does to the economy!

Jackpaul · Feb 12, 2023

Aceman8772 said:
Paper vs plastic. We were told if you wanted a paper bag you were bad cause you were killing trees. Go plastic! Big petro made a lot of money creating all kinds of one time use plastics. Now, you pay .08 cents a plastic bag cause the impact on the earth. It is a way to discourage using plastic. All of a sudden we are using paper straws as they are biodegradable and recycled.

So, here we are again. ICE versus EV. The dirty truth is the raw resources required are devastating to the planet and people to get. Perhaps even worse than drilling. You will not be able to build the EV without petro (plastic, paint ect.) anyways so forget about the day where there is no drilling for oil at least in the near future.

The factor in the demand for the electricity to charge. Do people really believe there will be green energy to support the demand that doesn't come without an bigger environmental cost? Wind farms and solar fields are not exactly environmentally friendly.

Finally, disposal of millions of car batteries? That is an environmental disaster that will happen just like the floating island of plastic in the Pacific ocean or the microplastics in our food now.

So, yeah, in summary bring on the EV and feel good about your virtue signaling at the stop light while the Tesla next to you goes up in flames.

A lot of good info on this forum but hyping the EV is not a positive thing I see in the forum. Go ahead and blast me away now for being contrarian.

No blasting from me, I would buy you a beer though!

Cheers,

BourbonRunner · Feb 12, 2023

Casique said:
Spoke to a Tesla owner last year when I drove my kid to college, VA to FL. The dude had been waiting in line to charge his Tesla for over 8 hours! Had to wait in line first, then charge to continue. Hell no, his trip went from 2 days, to almost 4 by the time he charged!

Every single person I know that has a Tesla loves it but hates the charging issue. They're stupidly fast, even in non-Plaid versions. Road trips take serious planning and more time due to charger availability.

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