EVO vs Clayton vs Rebel?

[Redjk07]

Which system would you go with? I know the question will be asked what am I going to be able to do with it! I always look at it I want to install things right the first time, what will I be doing with the Jeep, 95% of the time it will be a pavement ponder, then if it goes off road it won't be a rock bouncer but If I want to off road I can! But mostly trails!

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[Phljeeper]

Nice looking Jeep (assume the one in the profile pic is yours). To help we need a little more information. What size tires are you looking at? What is your budget? Do you want the complete lift (trackbars, control arms, shocks) or are you looking for the lower cost route and reuse some of the stock parts? Which model Gladiator do you have?

 

[Renegade]

There are so many variations of each company's lifts, you're going to have to be more specific.

 

[Mac]

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[bastage]

I don’t know how Rebel does their heights or much at all about them. But both Clayton and Evo are very underrated height wise. Of the 2 both are a premium product. I haven’t seen any complaints about Clayton and very little about evo (springs tweaking to the sides and could be installation error).

I went with the Clayton for 2 reasons. First is price. Comparing a complete Clayton to a complete evo both using identical shocks the Clayton comes in WAY WAY less impactful on the wallet. Second reason was because of the maintenance free bushings. The less upkeep required the better.

I have been extremely impressed with the Clayton kit. Looking at going a little taller and I’m not even considering any other brand.

 

[Mac]

I have read on here that the Clayton lifts are not what they advertise height wise, they provide more lift, to me that would be a bad thing, increased driveshaft angles and higher COG. If they are such great lifts and Jeep experts why don’t they list what the real lift height is ?

 

[bastage]

I have read on here that the Clayton lifts are not what they advertise height wise, they provide more lift, to me that would be a bad thing, increased driveshaft angles and higher COG. If they are such great lifts and Jeep experts why don’t they list what the real lift height is ?

They do.. The difference is where they measure from. They measure the rear instead of the front. The clayton guy explained it somewhere on this sub forum. The gist of it is that all popular brands bring the truck close to level. And if you get the measured amount in the front then your not getting the rear lift you paid for. If you measure from the rear then you get what you paid for out back & then what you paid for plus some in the front. Also FYI Evo heights are pretty close with Clayton for advertised vs actual so I suspect they measure the same way.

 

[FLUndertaker]

All I’ll say is my Clayton 2.5” is on order. I expect it by the end of next week.

 

[Redjk07]

I don’t know how Rebel does their heights or much at all about them. But both Clayton and Evo are very underrated height wise. Of the 2 both are a premium product. I haven’t seen any complaints about Clayton and very little about evo (springs tweaking to the sides and could be installation error).

I went with the Clayton for 2 reasons. First is price. Comparing a complete Clayton to a complete evo both using identical shocks the Clayton comes in WAY WAY less impactful on the wallet. Second reason was because of the maintenance free bushings. The less upkeep required the better.

I have been extremely impressed with the Clayton kit. Looking at going a little taller and I’m not even considering any other brand.

What Clayton lift did you go with? The 2.5 or 3.5? What shocks? I was thinking 3.5 but then afraid of getting into the driveshaft? I know if you do any kind of flexing I think even with the 2.5 you need to change it out!

 

[bastage]

What Clayton lift did you go with? The 2.5 or 3.5? What shocks? I was thinking 3.5 but then afraid of getting into the driveshaft? I know if you do any kind of flexing I think even with the 2.5 you need to change it out!

I have the 2.5 overland. And I will definitely need to change the driveshaft, but quite frankly it’s an easy thing to do so I’m waiting till I gernade the stock one.

The only regret I have with the lift is not going to the 3.5 from the get go. Not that I don’t have enough lift now, but because I’m sure I’m eventually going to want more and going to have to buy springs a 2nd time. On the bright side the Clayton’s are quite tall so I’m sure I’ll find someone who wants to upgrade from another brands 3 or 3.5” springs that are actually much shorter.

Edit: oh and the Fox shocks.

 

[Sal]

I have a Clayton 3.5 with Fox 2.0 (3-4in) reservoir and there’s no need for a new driveshaft.

 

[Redjk07]

I have a Clayton 3.5 with Fox 2.0 (3-4in) reservoir and there’s no need for a new driveshaft.

Nice set up are you running 37s? Can you tell me how tall it is? I’m leaning towards the 3.5 with 37s but still want it to go in the shed / garage!

 

[jeep671]

I just purchased Clayton Offroad 2.5" Overland+ Lift Kit, Fox Shocks, and Fox Steering Stabilizer solution, 10% Labor Day Discount Sale, and Free Shipping to my Ocean Freight Forwarder in Southern Cal! I've researched for a few months before I made my decision. There were a number of factors in my final decision. The main one is, obviously, quality that my limited budget can purchase. All I can say is James @ Clayton, who monitors this forum, is very responsive to all my questions and concerns. More so, I communicated with forum members or read their installation and reviews who have installed their product. Unfortunately, my lift kit will not get to me quick, because it has to be shipped to my ocean freight forwarder to be shipped to Guam, which will tack on another 3 weeks on the water, if not more, due to Guam Customs clearance at our Port once it arrives.

My build will consist of 17" KD Wheels and 37x12.5R17 Cooper STT Pro M/T, which is waiting for my lift kit to arrive and installed.

 

[salsadoc]

i ordered Clayton’s 2.5” overland lift w Fox shocks recently too. had to get some synergy 1.75” spacers since i’m keeping my stock rubicon wheels

 

[bastage]

i ordered Clayton’s 2.5” overland lift w Fox shocks recently too. had to get some synergy 1.75” spacers since i’m keeping my stock rubicon wheels

Hey you may wanna test before you bust out the spacers. I installed the jl spec aev borah today and it looks like I’ve got plenty of clearance. There is a 19mm difference in offset between what I have and the stock wheels. I have 37x12.50’s installed right now and it looks like 2ish inches of clearance with the lower control arms at full lock. Going to go test the rubbing off-road tomorrow. But I think Clayton’s recommendation is very conservative for our wide track axles.

Unless you just like that wider stance in which case go for it. I was running 0 offset and wanted to tighten things back up with my narrow fenders

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