GDE is back and making EPA compliant tune!

[biodiesel]

I tuned my duramax and it was very clear to me that the power train warrantee was immediately null and void legally the auto manufacturers are required by law to prove that the aftermarket item ie the tune caused the failure. Not hard for them as they design the systems and can simply say this or that is out of the designed parameters.

And just to clarify, the GDE tune does not remove the factory parameters. All safety parameters and code messaging stays intact.

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[Glad_he_ate]

They do not remove parameters however they do adjust them. Air fuel ratios boost pressure fuel pressure. All of these are parameters that get altered. I had two tunes for that truck. One delete tune and a 4 Poss tune from duramax tuner. The delete tune was from a gde sister company out of Canada.. so I’m rather familiar with the gde product.
but I digress. Tune it and you may void it or you may not. Roll the dice at own risk.. I did!
for what it is worth I will not tune this truck till 100000 miles perhaps 100001 but still

 

[biodiesel]

They do not remove parameters however they do adjust them.

GDE doesn't adjust the safety parameters, either . The tuning stays within the OE safety parameters.

 

[rharr]

They do not remove parameters however they do adjust them. Air fuel ratios boost pressure fuel pressure. All of these are parameters that get altered. I had two tunes for that truck. One delete tune and a 4 Poss tune from duramax tuner. The delete tune was from a gde sister company out of Canada.. so I’m rather familiar with the gde product.
but I digress. Tune it and you may void it or you may not. Roll the dice at own risk.. I did!
for what it is worth I will not tune this truck till 100000 miles perhaps 100001 but still

Five years or 100,000 miles on the odometer, whichever occurs first

 

[Glad_he_ate]

as far as delete tunes go you can keep all the safety’s in place and it will still do close to no good. Hard for the ecm to compensate for egts when you gut the sensors in the emissions system.. egr sensors stay however closure of the valve keeps those temperatures inaccurate due to no flow though the system… and for what it is worth @biodiesel i made no mention of safety parameters, the parameters I spoke of are tied directly to the performance and efficiency of a tune. Also over advanced timing is also a problem that there is no safety for… not that I believe gde is pushing there tune too far on timing, “ I bought one from the Canadian version of gde” just that it’s another parameter that in fact gets altered.
after ten years as an industrial mechanic and the last six as an union electrician I have a fair grasp on “parameters”…
It’s worth noting that I do not believe gde banks or duramax tuner make an unsafe product nor do I feel running a ots tune is detrimental to the Heath of your engine. As far as the manufacture covering an engine that snapped a rod or had a high pressure fuel pump fail at 20000 miles without trying all avenues to insure it had not been tampered with ?? Unlikely.

 

[CaptNkllm]

I thought this was going to be a worth while read… nope ??
I tuned my duramax and it was very clear to me that the power train warrantee was immediately null and void legally the auto manufacturers are required by law to prove that the aftermarket item ie the tune caused the failure. Not hard for them as they design the systems and can simply say this or that is out of the designed parameters. And yes I am talking about a different brand. However at least in ny this is how it works. Did my engine blow ? Nope..

I had a 2005 GMC Duramax with the LLY that had a overheating problem from the get go.. We had it in to warranty work for overheating but because they could not replicate then they wouldnt do anything... They ignored it.. Then the injector stuck and blew a hole in the piston which in turn blew the motor.. Warranty denied ..main reason was becasue I had gauges so that proved it was the tune..... Now I did have a tune and used a tow tune that helped MPG and I watched my egt when towing. My cylinder walls had Gaulling (sp) so they said that was from a tune but it was actually from it overheating the several time it had and the injector issue came from a harness issue they knew was faulty.

Either way the warranty was denied at the end of the day and I argued but it ended up costing me $10k to replace the engine..

Needless to say.. Last GMC I had bought and we are at least 13 trucks deep in ford now.. it is what it is and I knew the risk.

 

[Mac]

Tuning today allows EcoDiesel users a few options to skirt inspections. You can swap back to stock tuning with either a flashtool or ECM swap and nobody (inspection-wise) is going to know. That's how you can be tuned and still maintain your factory warranty.

You posted this in another thread, if the tune you are referring to has no warranty impact why did you post this?

 

[biodiesel]

You posted this in another thread, if the tune you are referring to has no warranty impact why did you post this?

That's correct. The way you evade warranty issues is to return the truck back to stock. That's the advantage of using the flashtool. The process takes approximately 6 minutes. The dealer's tool cannot detect that a tune was used on the truck.

Keep in mind, the GDE tune for the Gladiator might not be a flashtool, at least not in the beginning. Instead, it could be an ECM swap. I hope it's a flashtool since that is quick and easy. The flashtool can also scan and clear codes.

 

[cecaa850]

There is no proof yet that this will be a flash tune. It may be a pcm swap. Until it is actually for sale no one knows for sure no matter what they say. Its all just vaporware and mental masterbation at this point.

 

[cecaa850]

There's already a bunch of threads on ecodiesels derating due to excessive temperatures. I can't see how extracting pore power out of this can be done without modifications to the cooling system which already appears to be close to maxed out stock.

 

[biodiesel]

There's already a bunch of threads on ecodiesels derating due to excessive temperatures. I can't see how extracting pore power out of this can be done without modifications to the cooling system which already appears to be close to maxed out stock.

Are you talking about the 2014 - 2019 EcoDiesel or the 2020+?

 

[cecaa850]

Are you talking about the 2014 - 2019 EcoDiesel or the 2020+?

I'm talking about Gladiators as this is a Gladiator forum.

 

[biodiesel]

I'm talking about Gladiators as this is a Gladiator forum.

You've made comments about the 2014 - 2019 in the past, so I just wanted to make sure. As you probably know, the Jeep's narrow grille is restrictive, which is the main problem with the Gladiator. The only way to improve cooling is to increase air flow (grille modifications) install fans, tuning, larger coolers, and maybe a lower temp thermostat.

The Gen 3 EcoDiesel actually runs cool in the Rams, especially compared to the Gen 2 engine. I really don't need a front cover in the winter on my 2015 unless the temp gets down to the low teens, but I can benefit from a front cover at 32*F in my 2020.

 

[cecaa850]

As you probably know, the Jeep's narrow grille is restrictive, which is the main problem with the Gladiator. The only way to improve cooling is to increase air flow (grille modifications) install fans, tuning, larger coolers, and maybe a lower temp thermostat.

A lower temp thermostat doesnt increase cooling capacity. It just opens sooner.

Any tune that increases power will increase heat. There's no free lunch. Generating more heat in a vehicle whos cooling system is already pretty much at its limits is a recipe for disaster.

 

[FutureOdin]

There's already a bunch of threads on ecodiesels derating due to excessive temperatures. I can't see how extracting pore power out of this can be done without modifications to the cooling system which already appears to be close to maxed out stock.

Lol... people are reporting these derating issues when it's 90+F out, they're towing 3000+ lbs up a 9% grade. I haven't seen this issue when folks are just cruising around--but if they're out there, please let me know.

I just towed a 3500 lb. camper across South Dakota a few days ago, in 100F heat. Oil temps reached 255F on the steepest inclines, but never derated.

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