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Outlawing gas engines is many decades away, if ever. States will grandfather old ICE vehicles in. What is possible is outlawing the sale of new ones. That is what California did. By 2035 I won't be able to buy an ICE Gladiator. But who knows if Jeep will even still be making them in 2035? If they do, they will EVs or hydrogen based.
Granted im ignorant on a lot to do with it, but hydrogen engines are a cool concept.

 

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Granted im ignorant on a lot to do with it, but hydrogen engines are a cool concept.
In the future people wont even have to drive because Carls Jr. will come from a vending machine
 

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Granted im ignorant on a lot to do with it, but hydrogen engines are a cool concept.
It doesn't take much to convert an ice from gasoline to hydrogen.
 

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Am I the only one reading that differently than the article implies? It sounds to me like they are just saying they aren't looking to make a full-electric pickup version of the Recon. It's just saying "Hey, if we've got the Gladiator, why would we convert the Recon into another pickup?"

While I agree that maybe they won't release a 4xe version of the Gladiator, this quote is not saying that. The author is connecting dots on his own I think.
100%. Nowhere does that say there will be no electric Gladiator. It simply says "there will be no pickup version of the Recon". He actually says "everything's open".
 


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Granted im ignorant on a lot to do with it, but hydrogen engines are a cool concept.
All I know is that I saw a fueling station on a recent trip. Hydrogen burns with oxygen to make water. No other byproducts. So, theoretically, it is carbon neutral and zero emissions. But everything has unintended consequences. You have to use energy to take water and split the hydrogen from the oxygen. Where does that energy come from? How do you store Hydrogen? It embrittles metals so there is a material compatibility issue engineers have to deal with. Finally, the one I worry about (because I might be crazy) is the hydrogen molecule is very small and all of our systems will leak it into the atmosphere. Then it will rise into the outer edges of the atmosphere and get blown away by solar wind. Thereby turning our entire planet into a desert like Mars. Maybe I am crazy....
 

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All I know is that I saw a fueling station on a recent trip. Hydrogen burns with oxygen to make water. No other byproducts. So, theoretically, it is carbon neutral and zero emissions. But everything has unintended consequences. You have to use energy to take water and split the hydrogen from the oxygen. Where does that energy come from? How do you store Hydrogen? It embrittles metals so there is a material compatibility issue engineers have to deal with. Finally, the one I worry about (because I might be crazy) is the hydrogen molecule is very small and all of our systems will leak it into the atmosphere. Then it will rise into the outer edges of the atmosphere and get blown away by solar wind. Thereby turning our entire planet into a desert like Mars. Maybe I am crazy....
Power plants use hydrogen for years as a cooling medium in the generators. It's 14 times more efficient than dry air for removing heat. For storage, we had a semi tube trailer that we swapped out with another trailer when empty. The tube trailers had between 9 to 15 tubes. Pressurized to 2,600psi each. The tubes are made out of steel. The technology is there to use it. Just have to find a low cost way of separating it from oxygen is the problem.

If the hydrogen escapes. It will mix with oxygen again before being blown away by the solar wind. So I don't think you have to worry about it.
 

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Granted im ignorant on a lot to do with it, but hydrogen engines are a cool concept.
The hydrogen powered vehicle will still be an EV. They dont burn hydrogen like gas, they use a fuel cell to convert hydrogen to electricity which charges the ev battery which then powers the DC motors. Basically the hydrogen is used in the fuel cell as your own portable charger.
 

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China will be mining H³ on the moon in a few years and that'll save us all. Just got to learn a new language is all.
 


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I recall reading an article somewhere else that Stellsmtis has plans to have EVs across all
of its Jeeps.
 

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Power plants use hydrogen for years as a cooling medium in the generators. It's 14 times more efficient than dry air for removing heat. For storage, we had a semi tube trailer that we swapped out with another trailer when empty. The tube trailers had between 9 to 15 tubes. Pressurized to 2,600psi each. The tubes are made out of steel. The technology is there to use it. Just have to find a low cost way of separating it from oxygen is the problem.

If the hydrogen escapes. It will mix with oxygen again before being blown away by the solar wind. So I don't think you have to worry about it.
Hydrogen is used in a lot of specific, high tech applications, but to power a world's fleet of vehicles is a whole different scale. Also, hydrogen and oxygen in the atmosphere don't just combine into water by bumping into each other. You need concentrations at a sufficient level plus an ignition source. So what I described is completely possible but would likely take thousands of years, assuming the human race lasts that long.
 

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I recall reading an article somewhere else that Stellsmtis has plans to have EVs across all
of its Jeeps.
Jim Morrison, the head of Jeep North America, said as much on 4Xe day. here is a link to the video.
 

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Hydrogen is used in a lot of specific, high tech applications, but to power a world's fleet of vehicles is a whole different scale. Also, hydrogen and oxygen in the atmosphere don't just combine into water by bumping into each other. You need concentrations at a sufficient level plus an ignition source. So what I described is completely possible but would likely take thousands of years, assuming the human race lasts that long.
I just hit on one application of hydrogen that many people don't know about. I agree about powering a whole population is a whole different story.
We have other problems with someone willing to throw nukes at us now. If that happens, we don't have worry about going ev. Be more worried about learning how to ride a horse IF you can find one.

 

 
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