Like I said pretty much in the tank hence the heavy discounting along with factory incentives.
I might be jumping the gun replying before reading the rest of the thread, but the Rubicon is $7,130 more than the Sport S. You can't compare it to the base Sport as you can't option them the same.
They didn't even start delivering until may and it took several months to get going. That's less than a half year.
This is a valid point. Just for shits and giggles, I looked at the difference between a Camaro coupe vs. convertible: $6,500 upcharge for the ability to drop the top.
It's a little early to be writing the Gladiator off. I knew I was going to buy one when they were unveiled and kinda sorta considered ordering an LE on the 4/4 launch. The delay of the manual put a cold stop to that. Couldn't even test drive a 6-speed here until the fall. The local dealers never had more than 4 or 5 Gladiators on the lot at a time and I wanted to see in person all the colors and options I was considering before buying. That didn't happen until late November and I had to drive >100 miles to accomplish that. A month later I ordered it. Point being, I was ready long before Jeep was up to speed. Here we are deep into Q1 2020 and they still haven't logged a sale to me
Around the time the Gladiator was announced, the CEO of FCA said they'd be happy selling 100k Gladiators/year. 40k in half a year, the year they launched and before the incentives started kicking in, is probably right on target.
You're spot on with this. I waited 10 years for this thing to come out so when it did I immediately bought a Rubicon with all the bells and whistles. I paid way more than I should have. A loaded Tacoma with every option available would have cost me 15K less. I could have bought a full size Rebel with significantly better tech and a lot more room. I can't tell if I have buyers remorse or not. I hate paying above market for anything, especially if there are other things I like just as much. Time will tell I guess...
I had this debate with myself for months. Always driven full size trucks, never even considered midsize before. Really struggled with the more truck for less money issue. Drove a Rebel and really considered buying it. Finally settled on the JTR with the logic that it all depends on how you define “more truck”. If its square footage and hp then the full size wins, but if you value the top off doors off features and off road capability combined with reasonable truck capability then the JT is “more truck”. I still have my F150 until its lease is up- I walk right past it to drive the JT every day- thats how I know I made the right choice. But I did wait to buy until I could get a deal- paid over 6% below invoice, might feel differently if I paid msrp.
Exactly- I have always found myself getting tired and bored of the 1/2 tons Ive owned. In a sense with all the new car like features in 1/2 tons and massive cabs the trade off for me is they now feel like a minivan with a bed. The JT brings back an almost old school-cool truck feeling, while still offering modern electronics etc... Now that I have the JT and drive it back to back with the F150 it makes the F150 feel massive, sluggish and incredibly cheap, particularly the interior- the F150 is a big cheap plastic box.
i have a 19 raptor and your assessment is spot on. i much prefer to drive the gladiator than the raptor. much easier to drive, park, much much better interior, and you can forget about offroading in any place less than 10ft wide. now if i was hitting the sand dunes every day then the raptor would have been the ideal choice.
