Jeep wants your input as to what powerplant to add

[Chunky White]

No offense, but that's not exactly someone I'd believe...

Might he be right? Sure. A blind squirrel occasionally finds a nut. But a salesman is the last person to ask that question lol.

he wasn't much of a salesman and the ram forums back up what he was saying about reliabliity and my experience with fuel mileage. My family has been in the car business since the 40's so I know the business and don't believe much of what most people say.

A salesman's job is to sale and to do that they need to keep you from saying no

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[DBishop72]

I prefer the continuance of a naturally aspirated engines, perhaps an inline 6.

Ohh that sounds good too!

 

[Stan H]

I just traded a wrangler 392 for a gladiator and am definitely missing the power… mid 300s horsepower would be much more acceptable.

Trade back

 

[cb4017]

I've always thought a 5.7L option would be perfect across the whole Gladiator trim line.

Make the 5.7L a $2K-3K option in any Gladiator or Wrangler and they would sell a ton of them.

 

[Jeeper44mag]

I've always thought a 5.7L option would be perfect across the whole Gladiator trim line.

Make the 5.7L a $2K-3K option in any Gladiator or Wrangler and they would sell a ton of them.

Agreed!

Exactly what I've been saying for years now.

 

[Slojo]

The Hurricanes make the most sense for consumers and Jeep. Put the HO in the Mojave and the SO in everything else.

 

[DanW]

I'd love to see a Chevy LS3. Otherwise, I'm very happy with the 3.6. I'd love to see it massaged to about 315hp and 300+ ft. lbs. of torque.

But they can keep the turbos. The 5.7 Hemi would be nice, but I don't think it could get even close to the fuel economy of the 3.6.

My brother takes delivery of a Chevy Colorado Bison Monday. That thing has a snazzy and powerful 2.7 turbo 4. But it can only manage 16mpg on the highway (EPA). I can get 20mpg all day long with my 3.6 pulling a brick through the air. So like I said, they can keep the turbos.

So what's the rub on that and why is it important? On an overlanding expedition to Vermont, New Hampshire, and Maine a few years back, we got so deeply into northern Maine that we were seriously worried about fuel range. We had 3 JK's, my JLUR, and a Gladiator Rubi in the group. One of the JK's was my 08 Rubicon with the 3.8. It literally had 1/2 gallon of usable fuel left when we found a gas station. The other JK's with Pentastars had 2-4 gallons. The Gladiator had 4 and my JLUR had 5. I'm convinced that Gladiator would have had 6 if I had been driving it instead of my brother, LOL.

Fuel economy does matter. So if they do the Hurricane, it really needs to at least match the 3.6 or it would be a no-go for me. (In addition to the turbo.) I don't like the idea of a turbo on a vehicle that crawls off-road a lot.

 

[Oilburner]

I didn’t read thru 13 pages of posts, but the poll numbers add up to ~110%

 

[ShadowsPapa]

But they can keep the turbos. The 5.7 Hemi would be nice, but I don't think it could get even close to the fuel economy of the 3.6.

Bingo - and along comes that CAFE thing, creeping in, it's everywhere! Fuel economy plus emissions. They go tossing in an engine with WORSE mpg numbers, they either have to balance that out with a vehicle that gets BETTER mpg, or limit the sales of the larger engine and pay a hefty multi-million dollar fine (which would really hurt Stellantis right now)

 

[Wheelin98TJ]

I'd love to see a Chevy LS3. Otherwise, I'm very happy with the 3.6. I'd love to see it massaged to about 315hp and 300+ ft. lbs. of torque.

But they can keep the turbos. The 5.7 Hemi would be nice, but I don't think it could get even close to the fuel economy of the 3.6.

My brother takes delivery of a Chevy Colorado Bison Monday. That thing has a snazzy and powerful 2.7 turbo 4. But it can only manage 16mpg on the highway (EPA). I can get 20mpg all day long with my 3.6 pulling a brick through the air. So like I said, they can keep the turbos.

So what's the rub on that and why is it important? On an overlanding expedition to Vermont, New Hampshire, and Maine a few years back, we got so deeply into northern Maine that we were seriously worried about fuel range. We had 3 JK's, my JLUR, and a Gladiator Rubi in the group. One of the JK's was my 08 Rubicon with the 3.8. It literally had 1/2 gallon of usable fuel left when we found a gas station. The other JK's with Pentastars had 2-4 gallons. The Gladiator had 4 and my JLUR had 5. I'm convinced that Gladiator would have had 6 if I had been driving it instead of my brother, LOL.

Fuel economy does matter. So if they do the Hurricane, it really needs to at least match the 3.6 or it would be a no-go for me. (In addition to the turbo.) I don't like the idea of a turbo on a vehicle that crawls off-road a lot.

Bingo - and along comes that CAFE thing, creeping in, it's everywhere! Fuel economy plus emissions. They go tossing in an engine with WORSE mpg numbers, they either have to balance that out with a vehicle that gets BETTER mpg, or limit the sales of the larger engine and pay a hefty multi-million dollar fine (which would really hurt Stellantis right now)

The 5.7 Hemi is close to 3.6 MPG.

 

[DanW]

The 5.7 Hemi is close to 3.6 MPG.

Not bad! But knocks almost 50 miles off the range. They'd nail it with an increase of 3 gallons capacity.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

The 5.7 Hemi is close to 3.6 MPG.

Interesting that the 3.6 Ram does 1 mpg worse than a JT in town, but I can understan dhow it does 1 mpg better on the highway - it's an aerodynamic brick compared to the JT. The JT is 17/22 if I recall correctly compared to the Ram 16/23. Interesting the wider spread.

Good info. Thanks.

 

[cb4017]

I'd love to see a Chevy LS3. Otherwise, I'm very happy with the 3.6. I'd love to see it massaged to about 315hp and 300+ ft. lbs. of torque.

But they can keep the turbos. The 5.7 Hemi would be nice, but I don't think it could get even close to the fuel economy of the 3.6.

My brother takes delivery of a Chevy Colorado Bison Monday. That thing has a snazzy and powerful 2.7 turbo 4. But it can only manage 16mpg on the highway (EPA). I can get 20mpg all day long with my 3.6 pulling a brick through the air. So like I said, they can keep the turbos.

So what's the rub on that and why is it important? On an overlanding expedition to Vermont, New Hampshire, and Maine a few years back, we got so deeply into northern Maine that we were seriously worried about fuel range. We had 3 JK's, my JLUR, and a Gladiator Rubi in the group. One of the JK's was my 08 Rubicon with the 3.8. It literally had 1/2 gallon of usable fuel left when we found a gas station. The other JK's with Pentastars had 2-4 gallons. The Gladiator had 4 and my JLUR had 5. I'm convinced that Gladiator would have had 6 if I had been driving it instead of my brother, LOL.

Fuel economy does matter. So if they do the Hurricane, it really needs to at least match the 3.6 or it would be a no-go for me. (In addition to the turbo.) I don't like the idea of a turbo on a vehicle that crawls off-road a lot.

I'm currently driving a 23 ZR2. It's rated at 16 mpg but will routinely get 19 mpg overall if I don't drive it crazy. Your brother will like his Bison. An advantage the Colorado's have over the others is a slightly larger tank. 21.5 gallons v 18 gallons.

 

[DanW]

I'm currently driving a 23 ZR2. It's rated at 16 mpg but will routinely get 19 mpg overall if I don't drive it crazy. Your brother will like his Bison. An advantage the Colorado's have over the others is a slightly larger tank. 21.5 gallons v 18 gallons.

That's good! That'll help.

He picks it up Monday or Tuesday. They still have to install his winch. He says the side steps are removable. Where we're going to go, they'd be removed one way or another! LOL!

 

[cb4017]

That's good! That'll help.

He picks it up Monday or Tuesday. They still have to install his winch. He says the side steps are removable. Where we're going to go, they'd be removed one way or another! LOL!

Nice looking truck. I have the same side steps on mine. Yes, they can be removed. A cordless ratchet makes it quick and easy.

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