When you have an issue like with the steering - it's bound to make a person not really patient and want to yell at someone. I think we get it.I guess I was just in a bad mood earlier. Anyways, she’s going in to get the new box put in on monday the 13th. I will post back here that evening with all the info you want.
Btw, I could not move the input shaft by hand on the new box, that’s a good start!
My steering was loose with stock tires, I actually had already purchased the lift and 40's before even buying the Gladiator so I could do a one day build so didn't really get a chance to drive it stock but maybe 2 days but it was loose then as well, 40's and lift made it more dangerous but I'm just glad I was able to solve my problem and drive safely now. As my video states its worth a shot, but yes FCA needs to be on top of this ASAPIt's not air pressure.
We've been all over this for months.
Not when you can move the shaft around before the box responds. We've had people go clear down to 22 and back up to 36 and no difference. STEERING sector looseness, track bar issues (bolts cross-threaded, not torqued correctly, etc.)
For 40" tires, yeah, you would be running that low - but lowering any lower than some are running now is suicidal.
There's a ton of discussion on this and it doesn't resolve the loose steering sector.
I bet you get a lot of push-back on this from those poor folks who have spend weeks on this or longer - trying everything from tire pressure to toe-in settings, no fix.
We're talking people with stock tires, stock vehicles. You shouldn't be running 40 psi on this tires anyway so no wonder there was trouble there.
If it was as easy as tire pressure - wouldn't ya think that months ago it would be solved? Several have already suggested that - you are not the first, but it simply doesn't work for people who truly have the play in the steering - we are talking major play, looseness, not wander, not lack of response, etc.
It may have weeded out a handful (perhaps by MASKING the true cause?), but it's not the issue.
Lowering pressure to mask an issue like a problem with track bar mounting or sector play or other issues isn't great.
I can run 85 mph and better with mine- tires aired up to 38-39, depending on the day you check. Yet another fellow with an Overland, stock tires, has steering issues - not tire pressure, otherwise I'd have the issue, as would almost anyone running the correct pressure.
I wonder if they (FCA) are going to look at the manufacturing of these steering boxes to find out how they are being sent out clearly bad. It really is as simple as some higher up making one phone call or even a visit to find out. Its so simple. WHO or WHAT is making the sector shaft lash so friggin bad? I can’t believe that not one single person at Jeep, FCA, or whoever hasn’t figured this out yet.Fellow co-worker had his RAM truck in for service and they gave him a JL two door loaner. First thing in the morning he walks into my office and says "I got a loaner for my truck today at the dealership and they gave me a Wrangler." I say "Yeah, how do you like" his response "It was terrible and terrifying to drive on the highway over here. I couldn't keep the damn thing in it's own lane."
So I log into the JL forum to see if people are having the same problems. I go into the "Issues/Repairs.." section and sure enough there is a 300+ page thread on loose steering.
While I understand for Jeep it's kind of a subjective thing. Can't really prove there is anything "wrong" with the looseness in the steering. They really are going to turn off a lot of people from buying the things if they don't fix it. He then tells me him and his wife were discussing getting one for her next car(Wrangler not Gladiator)...but not if that's how it's going to drive, she has a rather long commute to work.
BTW, I just drove it at lunch. Yep...it's not right for sure. I've definitely driven JL's in the past that drove just fine. So there is clearly some variance going on in production.
Different causes for similar symptoms. For about 3 years our agency had complaints about their email. They all seemed similar, so for those years the "experts" in central IT and other places struggled to find a common cause. They could not.I think why this gets confusing is because it's not like the part is bad or it's not. If on a scale from 1-10 with 1 being a perfectly manufactured steering box and 10 being the worst tolerance steering box out there...people have everything from 1-10. SO for they guy with a 2-3 box...changing small things seem to make a big difference...like air pressure. But if you are the person with 8-10...air pressure isn't going to matter as much. I think that's why we are seeing some people see differences in things that get changed.
Then of course you have the additional complication of some of the track bar bolts and track bar bushings being bad...that muddies the waters even more.
I agree. I just can’t get over the fact that this particular issue is so easily fixed at the manufacturer (as far as I can see). It’s a simple quality control check.Huge sales (JL) and a lack of competition tend to make a manufacturer less likely to chase down issues, unfortunately. Not much motivation if the bottom line isn't being affected. I'm hoping Jeep begins to pay more attention to this type of issue.