.You know what??!! I really did want to go there. I am taking it to a different dealership, is there a way they can check and see if it’s the original transmission? Like is the vin number on it somewhere? If that’s the case I’ll be pissed and relieved at the same time.
Not sure. I'd imagine it would have a serial number. One thing you could do is put a drop of nail polish or paint somwhere on it and see if it is still there when you get it back. But it sounds like they already have it.
What happens if you hold it in 2nd gear?OK, I slid under the Jeep and looked at the transmission, the bolts do look like they have been turned. I did mark it anyway. I put some photo on this post. What do you all think??
I start in 1st, it will only stay in 2nd when it under load or I have to downshift.
The shifter mechanism was the first thing they swapped out the first time it happened. That was not it. Then they said they replaced the trans but it really never felt right. I will post all the vague paperwork a little later so you can see what I am dealing with. Thank for the awesome reply!!!I've done my share of transmission work. Generally, popping out of gear means it's not going in far enough to fully engage. The synchronizers if bad will grind or not let it go into gear. Sometimes the keys slip out of position and you think it's in but the collar it's fully engaged and locked in and it can pop back out, but that's also generally a bad shifter issue.
You push in the synchro, it is shoved against the hardened cone shape that's on the gear you are choosing to mesh with and the bronze synchro ring either slows or speeds the selected gear to match speed of the other shaft, then the teeth are tapered at the leading edge to allow it to slip into gear.
So it's not actually going fulling engaged - typically a shifter issue, or an interlock issue.
My T5 would not fully disengage one gear before the shifter would go into the other gate and engage the target gear. I ended up in two at once a couple of times. The result - disaster.
I wonder if they are replacing just certain parts - say the transmission itself, but not the shifting mechanism - these i've not had apart so not sure what's included in a replacement transmission. Years ago, you got the transmission only, not the shifter itself, that was ordered and installed as another part onto/into the transmission.
The weak spot in a lot of modern transmissions is actually the shifter itself - cheaply made, has to be light, etc.
You can just see the bronze synchronizer ring here and the tapered teeth on 5th gear. If the shifter doesn't slide the collar fully onto 5th, it could pop back out of gear - in this case the cause was shifter parts.
The rear thrust bearing eventually exploded and let the gear slide back preventing it from coming fully out of 5th but allowing a downshift into another gear.
