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I would advise against swapping in Rubicon take offs.
As mentioned above, Rubicons tend to wallow.
I went with Clayton's 1.5 kit with Bilstein 5100's with a greatly improved ride.
I am slightly higher then a stock Mojave.
Did you do the full lift kit? I was thinking about just throwing the 1.5" coils on my JTR, but keeping the rest fairly stock. I have some Fox Performance Elite 2.5 remote reservoir shocks on the way. I'm not super worried about 1.5" lift as much as I am wanting some stiffer springs in the rear.
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I went with the full 1.5 lift, I think the ride rite with bilstein 5100's
 

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Unfortunately that's not how tow capacity works. All the airbags will do is help recover rear sag. Rubicon springs are rated for 7k. If you are okay with 750 less pounds of towing capacity then you are good. (Honestly not sure who actually gets up in that range anyway.)

Badunit also has a point, you are going to get minimal lift as well especially after settling if that is a primary objective. Might consider the two inch lift from Mopar? I believe that still allows 7k towing.

For absolute ride quality most agree the Mojave is the best but those takeoffs are very rare.
I have a 24 Mojave X and I think it rides horrible. drove a 23 Rubicon and i thought it was a better ride.
 

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You’re going too slow!
He also might like a floaty horrible (imo) ride like my overland had stock. It handled like trash, leaned hard in corners and bounced rebounded multiple times after hitting large bumps for that floaty ride. I couldn’t stand it, but I see people try to say that overlands ride the best. Best is subjective, but that’s clearly not best to me. Softest, I would agree.
 
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I would advise against swapping in Rubicon take offs.
As mentioned above, Rubicons tend to wallow.
I went with Clayton's 1.5 kit with Bilstein 5100's with a greatly improved ride.
I am slightly higher then a stock Mojave.
"Wallow" is a function of the shocks, not really the springs. Proper shocks will control the spring's oscillations, and if the shocks aren't matched right, then the ride will suck.

Many have upgraded to the 5100s without complaint; it would be a solid improvement if the only problem with the ride was too much of a floaty feel.
 

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"Wallow" is a function of the shocks, not really the springs. Proper shocks will control the spring's oscillations, and if the shocks aren't matched right, then the ride will suck.

Many have upgraded to the 5100s without complaint; it would be a solid improvement if the only problem with the ride was too much of a floaty feel.
The 5100s make it feel a lot more in control and responsive and the bounce/wallowy feeling is gone. You do feel small undulations in the road more, but it’s not stiff at all when you hit bumps. I intentionally drove down a dirt road today hitting all the pot holes and washouts o could find and it felt great. Not any rougher. I vastly prefer it like this. I feel way more connected and in control.
 

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"Wallow" is a function of the shocks, not really the springs.
It took Max Tow rear springs in the rear to balance the suspension of my Rubicon and get rid of the wallowing. Shocks, which I tried first, didn't solve either problem, though they helped a little. Rear Max Tow springs + Bilstein shocks all around was the answer for me. It drives on the road like a dream now, or at least as good as one can expect out of a solid axle vehicle.
 

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To get the lift you will need to change spring rate, or length of the spring. This results in a firmer ride for a single rate spring, dual rate springs might give a more compliant ride on the road a balance between loaded and unloaded.

Ride quality is subjective. Give the same rig to three different people you will get 4 different reviews. So when you say ride quality what are you looking for? Bear in mind it will always be a compromise between loaded and unloaded conditions.

New gas shocks will always ride better than the worn-out or cheap OEM shocks they replace for a while. The gradual degradation you will get used to until the point where is begins to annoy.

If you are looking for a 2 inch lift you have a couple choices. Taller springs or spacers.

Shocks off the shelf are a compromise in the box. Your particular driving style might be sporty or it could be very conservative the valving for these two style is vastly different.
 

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Sport S max tow setup here! I did a 2 inch frankenlift and so far it's been great! I'll link my post about it below but the short is:

I did a 2 inch spacer lift from iron rock off-road in the rear to keep the max tow springs and 2 inch(rated for with a winch) springs for the front. Bilstein 5100s for the lift height and the Mopar 2 inch lift front control arms to fix castor.

I think it rides pretty good. But it rides great the moment I have any weight in the back. So when I'm set up with camp gear and RTT it rides really nice.

https://www.jeepgladiatorforum.com/...eekend-overlander-tj-tower.78474/post-1376655
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