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[ShadowsPapa]

I would get a hold of jeep warranty customer service. They will probably refund up to the cost of OEM shocks even if you choose to upgrade. I have done similar this recently with Ram care on my Ram 3500.

I had wondered about that, came within .00372 seconds of asking the service advisor if we could follow that type of path.
Still not out of the realm of possibilities. You said you did similar with Ram, makes it not just a "I wonder if" but makes it lean toward "it's not impossible".

1. You got typical "Analysis Paralysis".
2. Just about all the aftermarket monotube shocks are going to be based off the Rubicon for valving.

3. Got a choice to make to continue the path of possibly having to replace OEM shocks prematurely as a normal course of maintenance or roll the dice with the aftermarket and whatever that comes with.

Always the voice of logic and analysis..............Guys like me have to rely strongly on people like you.
1. Yes, and I always wondered why I sank into that constantly then when I was diagnosed and studied, I found - it's the wiring and there's little way around it some cases.

2. and that's why there's hesitation - part of the reason for this level of truck is because of the ride and I've tried to be careful to preserve that - thus my spring choices this time around compared to the 2020 which in the end didn't ride or handle quite as nice. (The max tow springs, Rubicon springs and Rubicon shocks are boxed up and stored away)

3. I'd only do the warranty stock replacement once - get past a money hump, and hopefully through the warranty - then jump off OEM and move forward. I'd not do it a second time if they started leaking or going bouncy in the next 12,000 miles.
Next time - I'd bail on stock.

But the thought of seeing if they'd allow after-market in leu of stock OEM because of non-availability is something I'm definitely going to look into. That could swing things at least into the "lean strongly" that direction area.

Boom.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2853510491...Cy3Jq1fTv-&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

LOL - seriously - a full set - but are those REALLY better than the wimpy Rubicon Fox shocks?

Kind of not related but really is…. I installed a set of Bilstein’s on a crew cab Chevy that porpoised so badly on bridges with uneven expansion joints it felt like the front end was coming off the ground. By installing the upgraded shocks was an incredible change. While not be harsh at all, the body control was phenomenal and very controlled.

They are a serious consideration but for the money - but may still work around that if I can collect a bit of what's owed me on some things. If I did aftermarket, that's probably the direction I'd go.
But - does anyone have them? (if so, likely not at the Northridge prices)

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[Dougstdig]

I had wondered about that, came within .00372 seconds of asking the service advisor if we could follow that type of path.
Still not out of the realm of possibilities. You said you did similar with Ram, makes it not just a "I wonder if" but makes it lean toward "it's not impossible".



Always the voice of logic and analysis..............Guys like me have to rely strongly on people like you.
1. Yes, and I always wondered why I sank into that constantly then when I was diagnosed and studied, I found - it's the wiring and there's little way around it some cases.

2. and that's why there's hesitation - part of the reason for this level of truck is because of the ride and I've tried to be careful to preserve that - thus my spring choices this time around compared to the 2020 which in the end didn't ride or handle quite as nice. (The max tow springs, Rubicon springs and Rubicon shocks are boxed up and stored away)

3. I'd only do the warranty stock replacement once - get past a money hump, and hopefully through the warranty - then jump off OEM and move forward. I'd not do it a second time if they started leaking or going bouncy in the next 12,000 miles.
Next time - I'd bail on stock.

But the thought of seeing if they'd allow after-market in leu of stock OEM because of non-availability is something I'm definitely going to look into. That could swing things at least into the "lean strongly" that direction area.




LOL - seriously - a full set - but are those REALLY better than the wimpy Rubicon Fox shocks?



They are a serious consideration but for the money - but may still work around that if I can collect a bit of what's owed me on some things. If I did aftermarket, that's probably the direction I'd go.
But - does anyone have them? (if so, likely not at the Northridge prices)

I haven’t looked lately, but when you’re ready, take a look at the ShockWarehouse.com. The Gladiator is listed under SUV. 5100’s are 110…so about the going rate.

 

[Dickster]

I had wondered about that, came within .00372 seconds of asking the service advisor if we could follow that type of path.
Still not out of the realm of possibilities. You said you did similar with Ram, makes it not just a "I wonder if" but makes it lean toward "it's not

They did it with fuel pumps and a few other things. It comes down to your vehicle needs repair based off warranty and they should fix it in a timely manner. It's not uncommon for them to pay out of pocket for things they can not get the repairs done. Shocks would be a low dollar item and the service advisor should be looking into it from day one. I myself would of escalated the matter once they told me months out for repairs.

 

[Stan H]

If you have a mill you can mill an flat spot on the ruby shocks and the drill a hole for a Schrader charge port, which then allows you to "rebuild" and recharge the shocks. You could get crazy and drain the old oil and add some 10 weight shock oil to see if that slows this down over whole operation range. most shocks run 5wt

If i was retired and had time to burn, would be a fun waste of time.

https://www.jeepgladiatorforum.com/...ing-their-own-shock-tuning.53421/post-1046714

There is a shop near me that rebuilds shocks.
I suggest trying to see if that would work for you maybe just rebuilding them and possibly improving them will be the ticket for you.

 

[rharr]

There is a shop near me that rebuilds shocks.
I suggest trying to see if that would work for you maybe just rebuilding them and possibly improving them will be the ticket for you.

i replaced my oem ruby with good stuff. no need to rebuild other then looking for a project. The good thing about the oem ruby stuff is they can come apart with minor effort and go back together with minor effort. this means you can modify them to your harts content by messing with the shim stack and oil thickness if you had a desire to stick with OEM sizes but wanted better valving.

Hell go find a local motocross/dirt bike suspension shop, they will have all the tools and know how to rebuild and improve those OEM ruby shocks.

 

[MojaveLawyer]

If you’re looking for shocks, shoot me a PM. Just put Kings on the Mojave and looking to get rid of the Mojave Foxs with Res at a reasonable price.

 

[SSinGA]

Made an appointment (finally, should never had put this off) for my JT (Overland) to go in for the front shocks that are leaking and to ask them to check the rears since it is now starting to bounce a bit much, and a lot more than it used to.
Can't get in until August 21st. That's bad enough but the service advisor emailed me and says - uh, not sure we can even get shocks by then, they are backordered.
About 20 minutes later I got another email thanking me for my appointment for my JT December 28th, 2023. i emailed the service advisor - hey, there's been some mistake?
He said ignore it - he put that in the system to see if he could get shocks even by then - maybe not. He said we'll keep the appointment since I have a clunk when the frame and body flexes and they need to check that out, but he can't promise they'll have shocks by then. Really? Standard cheap OEM/factory OVERLAND shocks - the level that likely sells the least and they can't get shocks.

Of course, I want it done for free so I guess I wait. If it was out of warranty I'd say never mind, I'll buy shocks and in short order have them swapped out. But this should be fixed on Jeep's dime.

And another thing swimming around in my mind.......
Front end is lifted 1.5"
Rear end is lifted a whopping 0.75" with spacers.
Any foreseen issues there?

I've been unable to find the collapsed and extended specs for JTO shocks (or most other full factory shocks for that matter) - so I can't say if my whopping, tall as a skyscraper, Superman can't even leap over it, monster lift of 1.5" and 0.75" matters a hoot with stock shocks. No specs, nothing to compare to.

Anyway, warning for those wanting shocks replaced under warranty - if it's an Overland - good luck.
They aren't even electronic and they can't get them.

There should be plenty of factory take offs floating around. Hit up your local 4x4 shop and see if they have any or if any future lift installs want to donate their shocks??

 

[ShadowsPapa]

They did it with fuel pumps and a few other things. It comes down to your vehicle needs repair based off warranty and they should fix it in a timely manner. It's not uncommon for them to pay out of pocket for things they can not get the repairs done. Shocks would be a low dollar item and the service advisor should be looking into it from day one. I myself would of escalated the matter once they told me months out for repairs.

I do wish I had pushed a bit more for him to be more creative and will likely still try.

There is a shop near me that rebuilds shocks.
I suggest trying to see if that would work for you maybe just rebuilding them and possibly improving them will be the ticket for you.

No one here that would do that.
The price? About $100-$125 for a basic rebuild. (I looked)
Time? I'd bet at least a month.

Hell go find a local motocross/dirt bike suspension shop, they will have all the tools and know how to rebuild and improve those OEM ruby shocks.

I dug around the web looking for costs (nothing around here but this IS Des Moines, Iowa) and the costs I've seen are $100 on up per shock.

The way I look at your leaking shocks, it's a good reason/excuse for a complete suspension upgrade. It's a fine line between a reason and a excuse sometimes. Looks like this "/". My phone won't make a finer line. That's all I got. Good Luck my Friend.

Suspension other than shocks is very good. Ride and handling good, handling actually is very good. Can't see an upgrade as it's a street vehicle. Not lifted other than the 1.5" up front (and small spacers in the rear).
It really only needs shocks. Don't know what I'd "upgrade" or why.
If I'm trying to avoid big money by trying warranty first, can't see replacing other parts that aren't broken. I'm within normal factory operating parameters otherwise so it's not misbehaving in any way.
The only thing i'd ever consider is slightly more caster - MAYBE (steers fine now) or the fact the front axle isn't 100% perfectly centered with a 1.5" "lift" but it's impacting nothing at this point.
So will concentrate on shocks.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

If you’re looking for shocks, shoot me a PM. Just put Kings on the Mojave and looking to get rid of the Mojave Foxs with Res at a reasonable price.

Hmmm. problem with reservoir mounting? Up front I have a 2" receiver and a snow plow mounting bar taking so much space I had to leave off the skid plate.
I wonder where people mount the reservoirs on trucks like mine.

Wonder how those would impact the ride. I've heard the Mojave ride is good so it can't be a negative.

 

[smlobx]

Just convince the dealer to reimburse you and then get the 5100’s. They are another level above the factory set up.

 

[obrianmcc]

Made an appointment (finally, should never had put this off) for my JT (Overland) to go in for the front shocks that are leaking and to ask them to check the rears since it is now starting to bounce a bit much, and a lot more than it used to.
Can't get in until August 21st. That's bad enough but the service advisor emailed me and says - uh, not sure we can even get shocks by then, they are backordered.
About 20 minutes later I got another email thanking me for my appointment for my JT December 28th, 2023. i emailed the service advisor - hey, there's been some mistake?
He said ignore it - he put that in the system to see if he could get shocks even by then - maybe not. He said we'll keep the appointment since I have a clunk when the frame and body flexes and they need to check that out, but he can't promise they'll have shocks by then. Really? Standard cheap OEM/factory OVERLAND shocks - the level that likely sells the least and they can't get shocks.

Of course, I want it done for free so I guess I wait. If it was out of warranty I'd say never mind, I'll buy shocks and in short order have them swapped out. But this should be fixed on Jeep's dime.

And another thing swimming around in my mind.......
Front end is lifted 1.5"
Rear end is lifted a whopping 0.75" with spacers.
Any foreseen issues there?

I've been unable to find the collapsed and extended specs for JTO shocks (or most other full factory shocks for that matter) - so I can't say if my whopping, tall as a skyscraper, Superman can't even leap over it, monster lift of 1.5" and 0.75" matters a hoot with stock shocks. No specs, nothing to compare to.

Anyway, warning for those wanting shocks replaced under warranty - if it's an Overland - good luck.
They aren't even electronic and they can't get them.

Not sure if this helps ....

 

[steveorama]

I love the Eibach Pro-Truck Sport shocks I added to my (Rubicon spring added) JTO, so that’s my recommendation. I'm very pleased with the ride quality now after dealing with the terrible Rubi shocks and find the ride very similar to the stock Overland ride IMO.

https://www.jeepgladiatorforum.com/forum/threads/anyone-running-eibach-shocks-or-springs.67192/

 

[MojaveLawyer]

Hmmm. problem with reservoir mounting? Up front I have a 2" receiver and a snow plow mounting bar taking so much space I had to leave off the skid plate.
I wonder where people mount the reservoirs on trucks like mine.

Wonder how those would impact the ride. I've heard the Mojave ride is good so it can't be a negative.

Seems that they are mounted by a 10mm bolt. I'm sure there is a way to find a clamp that attaches to the main shock, and can clamp it similar to how I've seen some of the shocks w/ res's on different trucks.

I'm sure some folx have some insight on this.

 

[jebiruph]

@ShadowsPapa I have a set of Sport take offs you can borrow while you wait for your warranty replacement.

 

[Mister Lamb]

Have you thought about using something like Sumo Springs with your existing Ruby springs? Have only heard good things. Sounds like a pair in the front would help with your plow as well.

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