Overland or Rubicon - Can't Decide

[Bt_okst]

Overland daily driver. Rubicon if going off road at all or want to maximize the machismo and capabilities of the jt.

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[Carlton]

Just my opinion--- but nothing screams insecurity to me than someone trying to label things as 'feminine' or less 'masculine'.

P.S. I'm hoping you don't get offended by this reply. But if you do, I understand. Feeling like someone questioning your masculinity will sometimes make folks with insecurities even angrier.

It has nothing to do with insecurities but has everything to do with marketing. The Sahara and Overland models are geared more towards women.

 

[Hurley82]

Having bought and sold wranglers, this theory, while common, is somewhat overblown. You’ll lose about the same % in depreciation on a sport as you will on a rubi, you’re just starting with a bigger number. Someone on the JL side did a little study of the used market a few years back, and it was pretty even.

I feel like a a lot gets overblown.

I had JK sport or X whatever the 07's were. Bought it with 7k miles for $21,500. I drove it for 4 years and put 45k on miles on it. I sold it for $20k. All models have pretty great resale.

The same goes for ability, there is no doubt that the Rubi is crazy capable but the base models are pretty damn good. If you love to throw money at rigs for looks or whatever thats great but I feel like newcomers get the impression that they have to run 35's or 37's, replace bumpers, need $1500 in lights that they'll use once, etc. A JK with a budget boost and 33's will run 80 to 90% of all the trails in Colorado and Utah.

 

[Trickster]

Can you ever go back?! I have a ‘17 Gobi Rubicon. Beautiful, loaded truck. Too nice to off-road for me sadly but I’m in the woods a fair bit. Top has never been off it rained every day I wasn’t working last year it seems. I can almost trade equal for a base Sport. I sort of want retro crank windows and a manual, relive my experience of my 1st Sahara I bought in ‘98. But can you ever go back?? Now I’m used to heated seats, nav, Alpine, remote start. Maybe I should just be happy with what I’ve got...

Once you've tasted steak, your never going to be as happy with hamburger.
Tiny stereo, no heated seat, steering wheel, and all the luxuries you get used too in
a premium model will have spoiled you and if like me, you will have regrets.
Been there, done that.

 

[trez63]

I’m in the same damned boat. And this video made it even harder to decide by pointing out some really important stuff:

 

[steffen707]

Hi guys – longtime reader / first-time poster. I am preparing to place my Gladiator order and I remain torn between the Rubicon and Overland. Based on my configuration, there is “only” a $3K difference between the two models. Although I don’t plan to tap into the capability of the Rubicon, I do like the aesthetic look of the vented hood, Fox shocks, chunkier tires, and steel bumper. In my view, if I elected to make any of these modifications on my own to the Overland, even if for purely aesthetic reasons, I’d already be approaching Rubicon cost, and so I might as well just go with the Rubicon to start with, which, beyond the aesthetic appeal, brings the added capability of the locking diffs, disconnecting sway bar, etc… This is not as big of a deal for me, but I could see the Rubicon holding its value slightly better for someone looking to take it off my hands in a few years purely as an offroad / adventure vehicle.

As for the Overland, I really prefer the leather covering on the dash to the painted plastic look of the Rubicon. I’m planning to go with the saddle brown leather, so I would lose the red accents in the Rubicon (which I do not prefer). I also like the functionality of the side step on the Overland (versus the rock rails on the Rubicon), although I’m not a huge fan of the gray plastic. If I go with the Rubicon, I’d probably add an electric side step at some point down the line, which would give me the functionality without all of the plastic.

I’m probably 80% sold on the Rubicon at this point, but interested in getting others’ thoughts! I suppose I should drive a Rubicon / Sahara JL in stock form for a driving comparison as well, but any comparative thoughts on driving dynamics would be very helpful also, even considering that the Gladiator rear end has more in common with the Ram 1500 than the JL.

You're alright by me. Irish and own a Pacifica. Welcome!

As for your plans, I like em. I too like the side steps, but i'm probably going rubicon with https://www.quadratec.com/p/rock-sl...YnP7d1xwU_IyYJfpJMdMPl1yGCSrgB9QaAgt2EALw_wcB these things, i too like the leather dash of the overland, but this doesn't look too bad on the Rubicon, https://www.jeepgladiatorforum.com/forum/threads/dash-photos-thread.15158/

You can also buy the leather dash insert for like $300 and then swap them post purchase. Saddle seats look sweet.

If you don't plan to offroad, you might want to consider the driving characteristics of each. Maybe the only difference is tires of the rubicon. Also Rubicon will tow more, so if towing is of concern, that's the route i'd go.

 

[jeepguy225]

I’m in the same damned boat. And this video made it even harder to decide by pointing out some really important stuff:

The problem with building a Sport S is having to tell the wife why you are buying jeep parts every other month. Better to just buy the Rubicon if you have the go ahead than deal with the boss every time brown santa stops by.

 

[GoIrish]

https://www.jeepgladiatorforum.com/forum/threads/dash-photos-thread.15158/

Thanks for the screen shot of that dash pic! I agree that that looks much better than the rendering on the Jeep website!

 

[HotSpringsJL]

You're alright by me. Irish and own a Pacifica. Welcome!

As for your plans, I like em. I too like the side steps, but i'm probably going rubicon with https://www.quadratec.com/p/rock-sl...YnP7d1xwU_IyYJfpJMdMPl1yGCSrgB9QaAgt2EALw_wcB these things, i too like the leather dash of the overland, but this doesn't look too bad on the Rubicon, https://www.jeepgladiatorforum.com/forum/threads/dash-photos-thread.15158/

You can also buy the leather dash insert for like $300 and then swap them post purchase. Saddle seats look sweet.

If you don't plan to offroad, you might want to consider the driving characteristics of each. Maybe the only difference is tires of the rubicon. Also Rubicon will tow more, so if towing is of concern, that's the route i'd go.

Where can you order the leather insert dash. I really am not into the red dash on the Rubicon. Thanks!

 

[steffen707]

Where can you order the leather insert dash. I really am not into the red dash on the Rubicon. Thanks!

Im not sure, I believe it's in a thread about custom dash painting.

 

[Oilburner]

So Quadratec guy said with the Sport S, when you order the max tow Pkg, you get ‘molded in color’ flares. What exactly does that mean? Black or the color you choose for the exterior? How are they different than standard flares?

 

[Jeepznthingz]

When in doubt...flip a coin. If you feel aftwards you want to do 2 out of 3, then pick the choice that didn’t come up on the first flip.

 

[lookitsadam]

Honestly, I'd argue a fully loaded Sport S is better than the Overland.

The only things you can't get on a Sport that you can on Overland are leather seats, LED lights, and color matched fenders/top. All of which are fairly easy to upgrade aftermarket or swap with some take offs.

If you don't need the serious off road capability of a Rubicon, go Sport S. The difference is price is basically $48k to $62k. You can use the money you saved to purchase bumpers/wheels/lift which you would have probably purchased for the Rubicon at some point anyway.

 

[Oilburner]

The only things you can't get on a Sport that you can on Overland are leather seats, LED lights, and color matched fenders/top. All of which are fairly easy to upgrade aftermarket or swap with some take offs.

Picking nits the here, but I’m pretty sure you can’t get the ‘proximity door lock’ feature on a Sport or S. Not a priority for most tho

 

[Wraith]

So Quadratec guy said with the Sport S, when you order the max tow Pkg, you get ‘molded in color’ flares. What exactly does that mean? Black or the color you choose for the exterior? How are they different than standard flares?

Good question. From our understanding the "Molded-In-Color flares" are a similar width to what is on the Rubicon to cover the extra width of the axles, but a similar design as to what is on the Overland just in black plastic. What that means is the marker light is the LED unit carried over from those two models in a black plastic flare that is the same width as the Rubicon ones with the overall height of the Overland flares. If that makes sense. This is what we can gather from press release and images but there may be something that was missed and we will find out once members start getting their hands on them. Hope that helps clear things up!

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