So i got pulled over and thrown the book. apparently i need wide vehicle lights?

[ShadowsPapa]

With the pressure washer at the trailhead? Short of a few ohv parks there's generally no means for washing a vehicle coming off the trail. Our property in AZ is out 15 miles of dirt road and the nearest car wash from there is 40 miles. If it's muddy is muddy, not much you can do there. That 15 miles of dirt road is a public road, as are all the forest service roads, most trails (including the rubicon trail), etc. How are you going to avoid sharing the millions of miles of dirt and gravel roads without getting dirty?

Didn't say it has to be pristine, but it's also not hard to knock off the chunks or worst of it either.
Part of it is attitude - and this gives Jeep people the reputation they have for some - uncaring about anyone unless they are into trails and getting muddy.

I've come out of my share of muddy fields with tractors, trucks, trailers, and more - you can knock the chunks and worst of it off if you care and take some time. No one said had to be pressure washed, but just driving out and letting physics clean things?
Nope, having driven my trucks and equipment into and out of muddy fields for years - you can knock off the worst. I carried cheep brooms and always had sticks to at least get the worst chunks off.
The muck and mud in my fields was a challenge, and it was that way for weeks every spring and every fall. I've been there.
Remember, I farmed, a lot of wet areas, washouts, mud, had my trucks in there (both Chevy and Jeep) and 2 grain trucks, tractors, whatever.

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[PuddleJumper]

Didn't say it has to be pristine, but it's also not hard to knock off the chunks or worst of it either.
Part of it is attitude - and his gives Jeep people the reputation they have some some - uncaring about anyone unless they are into trails and getting muddy.
I've come out of my share of muddy fields with tractors, trucks, trailers, and more - you can knock the chunks and worst of it off if you care and take some time. No one said had to be pressure washed, but just driving out and letting physics clean things?
Nope, having driven my trucks and equipment into and out of muddy fields for years - you can knock off the worst. I carried cheep brooms and always had sticks to at least get the worst chunks off.
The muck and mud in my fields was a challenge, and it was that way for weeks every spring and every fall. I've been there.

that's fair. I wasn't flinging buckets of mud, but kicking the caking off the wheels and fenders liners probably would've helped. taking 10 mins is definitely cheaper than the fines imposed for sure.

 

[Zachanadandy]

Didn't say it has to be pristine, but it's also not hard to knock off the chunks or worst of it either.
Part of it is attitude - and his gives Jeep people the reputation they have some some - uncaring about anyone unless they are into trails and getting muddy.
I've come out of my share of muddy fields with tractors, trucks, trailers, and more - you can knock the chunks and worst of it off if you care and take some time. No one said had to be pressure washed, but just driving out and letting physics clean things?
Nope, having driven my trucks and equipment into and out of muddy fields for years - you can knock off the worst. I carried cheep brooms and always had sticks to at least get the worst chunks off.
The muck and mud in my fields was a challenge, and it was that way for weeks every spring and every fall. I've been there.

Fortunately there's a fairly large wash just before the highway, and the roads is pretty sandy from there. If it's wet enough to be muddy there's usually water running in the wash. I'll splash through it a couple times to take care of the big chunks for sure but there's still going to be some left behind to fall off with the freeway speeds.

 

[JRobes]

Most trails I've been to also have nearby gravel roads where you can build up some speed to let the tire debris come loose, which is a much better spot to do it than on a paved road where motorcycles may be riding. I've gone down on a bike due to gravel/debris that fell off a careless truck driver's trailer, and was not too happy about it.

100% your responsibility to be mindful of others' safety and local laws.

 

[PuddleJumper]

Most trails I've been too also have nearby gravel roads where you can build up some speed to let the tire debris come loose, which is a much better spot to do it than on a paved road where motorcycles may be riding. I've gone down on a bike due to gravel/debris that fell off a careless truck driver's trailer, and was not too happy about it.

100% your responsibility to be mindful of others' safety and local laws.

Oh the highway patrol guy made that very clear.

 

[TheDerb]

I think this guy just hates trucks/jeeps maybe? anway TIA.

Or he just doesn't like the idea of everybody within 500' of you getting your mud and dirt kicked up at them. People don't hate trucks and jeeps. They hate people that are inconsiderate main characters that have no regard for the people around them.

Signed,

The guy who got his windshield cracked leaving Windrock when the dope in front of me pulled his best impression of Bo Duke with his 37's kicking up every possible size of rock and mud onto my windshield. $800 down the drain. I hope I see that guy again.

(editing to say im sure you didn't peel out or do what the guy in the story did, and that this cop could have absolutely been picked on by a guy that looked like you in high school- we'll never know)

 

[PuddleJumper]

Or he just doesn't like the idea of everybody within 500' of you getting your mud and dirt kicked up at them. People don't hate trucks and jeeps. They hate people that are inconsiderate main characters that have no regard for the people around them.

Signed,

The guy who got his windshield cracked leaving Windrock when the dope in front of me pulled his best impression of Bo Duke with his 37's kicking up every possible size of rock and mud onto my windshield. $800 down the drain. I hope I see that guy again.

sorry that happened to you. I don't haul ass on road when i'm muddy, i tend to keep it 5-10 under in the far right till i can get to the nearest wash. As far as your windshield, may i recommend a 0 dollar glass deductible thru ur insurance. My past 2 windshields have been 100 percent free.

 

[Marmaduke]

I’m assuming the blocked license plate and lights were due to mud? Damn… he really did “throw the book” at you. Probably had his windshield cracked recently by someone flinging rocks with mud in his private vehicle. You may be able to get a lot of those fines reduced/dismissed once fixed by asking the court nicely and proving you have the correct markers and promising to clean the mud up before getting on the public road again. Depending on your state, those may or may not be “moving violations.” Getting those changed to non moving is always a bonus and it never hurts to ask. Results will vary by jurisdiction.

 

[Sweetums]

So as stated in the title. I got pulled over while running my 37s this weekend for an offroad trip. Apparently my width exceeded 82in wide and i need lights for that? So i was wondering, which ones should i get and do i put them in the hood scoop like the TRX or the grille like a raptor? never thought I'd ever be given a ticket for this. But i got multiple. covered/blocked license plate, cover/blocked tail lights, improper lights for highway use, etc. I think this guy just hates trucks/jeeps maybe? anway TIA.

You need:
Three amber center lights in the front
Three red center lights in the rear
Front corner amber lights showing your width
Rear red corner lights showing your width.

You might be able to skate with just the three center lights front and back (three, not four, not seven. Three. DOT is very specific about this) because the OE fender lights are already at the corner of the body.

EDIT: OP has since stated he's narrower than 80" - meaning no DOT marker lights are required.

 

[PuddleJumper]

Thx

I’m assuming the blocked license plate and lights were due to mud? Damn… he really did “throw the book” at you. Probably had his windshield cracked recently by someone flinging rocks with mud in his private vehicle. You may be able to get a lot of those fines reduced/dismissed once fixed by asking the court nicely and proving you have the correct markers and promising to clean the mud up before getting on the public road again. Depending on your state, those may or may not be “moving violations.” Getting those changed to non moving is always a bonus and it never hurts to ask. Results will vary by jurisdiction.

thx for the advice

 

[ShadowsPapa]

100% your responsibility to be mindful of others' safety and local laws.

There's my main point.
It's a few who give the many a bad name/rep.
There are things that can be done. No one is suggesting pressure wash and make it pristine before hitting the road - but I got my fill of "but it's not my fault" from my youngest son years ago. Yeah, it is. Like it or not. We share this whole world, roads and all.
I HAVE been smacked in the face shield by mud from an ass 4-wheeler who just came from the river bottoms and you can't just wipe that off going 65 or so on the highway and with no face shield.........
Even with a car, I've had that crap tossed onto the windshield - rocks and mud. you can't just hit the washers and have it clean right off.
At least act like you care.

It's actions and attitudes, both.
If I screw up, I screw up, I apologize, try to fix it, learn and move on.
Own it.
There's always something that can be done.
Years of wet fields (my ground was poorly drained until many tens of thousands was spent on new tiling) and big tractor duals, running my pickups and grain trucks out of muddy fields, I've been on both sides and can see both sides. I at least tried. Not always perfect - and if I had caused a problem, I'd own it and not say "not my fault".
sometimes we're between that rock and hard place - Jeep people are supposed to be creative, not cop a "not my problem" ..............

Sorry, it just reminded me of my youngest son. And there is almost always something a thinking person - or one who cares - can do. May not be perfect, but IMO, and in the words of a college prof I had - trying is half the battle.

 

[PuddleJumper]

You need:
Three amber center lights in the front
Three red center lights in the rear
Front corner amber lights showing your width
Rear red corner lights showing your width.

You might be able to skate with just the three center lights front and back (three, not four, not seven. Three. DOT is very specific about this) because the OE fender lights are already at the corner of the body.

damn! Ok noted

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I’m assuming the blocked license plate and lights were due to mud?

Again, having been there as a farmer - you check lights and plates, wipe off as possible, hit the road.
It goes back to the- there really is no excuse. Any responsible Jeeper would know and at least try. Makes it bad for the many who try hard to be responsible and not get banned from areas.

 

[starrskream]

I was on my bike And got a rock hit to the chest. I followed him home and gave it back to him.
“here you dropped this, it hit me in the chest, could have killed me.” Dude turned white.
Hopefully he remembers next time.

yes, I get coming off a trail and having some shit on your car but there’s literally no harm in doing what you can to get rid of it first be considerate of others. It’ll pay off in the long run.

 

[Silverator]

Oh the highway patrol guy made that very clear.

Dude was obviously a Toyota owner with Jeep envy. LOL.

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