Strike has begun

[Pescatoral Pursuit]

So guys… the strike will drive up the price of Jeeps again huh?

Where did that come from??
What are you even talking about??

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[Deleted member 57233]

Is the strike over yet?

It's just getting started. GM laid off 2,000 workers today, Stellantis is laying off 370. Stellantis claims they have 90 days of inventory, so I would expect this one to go for a while. Ford will probably cave first.

 

[Hootbro]

So do we know what wage they are paid? Starting pay? Max pay?

I seen this video a couple of days ago and if accurate, they have two system pay structure.

Supplemental employees at $15.78 and max at $19.28.

Fulltime start at $17.00 and max out at $31.75.

I know from my work (Aerospace) that has a UAW union, there is myriad of pay structures based on job classification and vary more than that and usually way higher (but they are usually more skilled). So I would not take the video claims as gospel that everybody at Stellantis UAW union is make those wages and probably a bit more for some full time employees.

I know at my work about two contracts ago around 2008-2009, the company pushed hard for the two tier pay structure. The higher one for the legacy employees and the knee capped one for the new and supplemental employees brought on later. What is not talked about in a lot discussions on past union contracts is that the senior Union people will sell out the newer union guys since they have the votes to make them take it and they keep their higher pay and benefits intact.

Fast forward now, a lot of the senior guys have aged out and retired and now that lower tier pay structured employees are wanting their due.

 

[Jefe1018]

It's just getting started. GM laid off 2,000 workers today, Stellantis is laying off 370. Stellantis claims they have 90 days of inventory, so I would expect this one to go for a while. Ford will probably cave first.

Well since we have time... I'm curious if that is your BC in your profile picture? I've got a couple, a classic black and white with the working drive of a tractor and a red merle who follows her lead.

 

[Phishs]

It's just getting started. GM laid off 2,000 workers today, Stellantis is laying off 370. Stellantis claims they have 90 days of inventory, so I would expect this one to go for a while. Ford will probably cave first.

I would say 4-6 weeks at the most. I’d be shocked if it goes 90 days.

 

[Phishs]

What happens to employees that cross the picket line to work?

 

[Jefe1018]

I seen this video a couple of days ago and if accurate, they have two system pay structure.

Supplemental employees at $15.78 and max at $19.28.

Fulltime start at $17.00 and max out at $31.75.

I know from my work (Aerospace) that has a UAW union, there is myriad of pay structures based on job classification and vary more than that and usually way higher (but they are usually more skilled). So I would not take the video claims as gospel that everybody at Stellantis UAW union is make those wages and probably a bit more for some full time employees.

I know at my work about two contracts ago around 2008-2009, the company pushed hard for the two tier pay structure. The higher one for the legacy employees and the knee capped one for the new and supplemental employees brought on later. What is not talked about in a lot discussions on past union contracts is that the senior Union people will sell out the newer union guys since they have the votes to make them take it and they keep their higher pay and benefits intact.

Fast forward now, a lot of the senior guys have aged out and retired and now that lower tier pay structured employees are wanting their due.

This probably traces back to the recession, I know my workplace's bargaining unit made a lot of concessions, wage and hourly pay cuts (making not just the take home pay a big deal, but also longer time worked required for pension), loss of seniority pay for new employees, longer time to "top out" within your range, and a few other I am probably not thinking of. Although there has been nothing as extreme, there have been some positive things happening for us in the last few years, not enough to not make us feel inflation, but movement is movement.

 

[Rocksalt]

while a strike definitely creates hardships, It has become much too common amongst companies to favor large profits and disproportionate profits to upper mgmnt, CEOs, and stockholders compared to the crucial workers. As auch I support the workers in this. I hopeit gets resolved.

 

[Deleted member 57233]

Well since we have time... I'm curious if that is your BC in your profile picture? I've got a couple, a classic black and white with the working drive of a tractor and a red merle who follows her lead.

She came with the wife. She's a BC/Corgi mix, so shes a really fast lowrider ?

I have a blue heeler that is the same age and those two just run each other stupid all day.

 

[Aj58]

What happens to employees that cross the picket line to work?

At minimum they get an 8ft rat inflated in front of their house ?

 

[Alpine Warthog]

I seen this video a couple of days ago and if accurate, they have two system pay structure.


I know at my work about two contracts ago around 2008-2009, the company pushed hard for the two tier pay structure. The higher one for the legacy employees and the knee capped one for the new and supplemental employees brought on later. What is not talked about in a lot discussions on past union contracts is that the senior Union people will sell out the newer union guys since they have the votes to make them take it and they keep their higher pay and benefits intact.

That jives with what my railroad buddy was telling me about their unions. But there the old school is very much still in charge and still relatively young.

 

[ecidiego]

I wish @JAY would just delete these threads instead of culling the community.

STOP replying in this thread. While it may seem fun to bait members you don't like into getting themselves banned....it sucks for the rest of us.

I'm at 2/2 points...one more 'offense' and I'm gone.. I've posted several threads detailing installs no one else ever has. I feel like I've contributed much more than most. Yet I'm on thin ice.

Eff these idiotic political rant threads that destroy the forum. Log onto Facebook if you want to spew your politics no one cares about.

 

[Hootbro]

I wish @JAY would just delete these threads instead of culling the community.

I agree, the whole thread has been bait and an "attractive nuisance" that should have been closed before it rolled into a second page if they want to keep their "no politics" mantra alive.

While I may not have agreed with a lot of what @Pescatoral Pursuit has said here, he or anybody else in this thread that express any opinion should not have been banned.

 

[biodiesel]

What happens to employees that cross the picket line to work?

They are called the heroes and should be rewarded for doing so.

 

[sharpsicle]

The problem is people just can't help themselves. There were many pages of posts in this thread that were actually conversations, actually productive. Nobody ever had to start the "us vs them" conversations. Yet they did, and used the topic at hand to build the soap box. We see this all over the place, it doesn't matter the topic.

In my opinion there was, and still is, a legitimate conversation here. Just like other threads, it's unfortunate that these things always get twisted into an unrecoverable mess like this.

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