Tesla Cybertruck anyone?

[xpcdoojk]

This is a very interesting observation - I am sure they will think of something for rescue when it goes to production.

As for people saying it lacks windshield wipers LOL well, I think it is about time someone designed wipers that work 100% of the time - like some of the items in the innovation pipeline for wipers is nanotechnology, airflow sensors and some kinda ultrasonic waves - so who knows what the truck might have?

I really don't understand some of the people who say Elon being a billionaire is on a con job and he will go bankrupt or whatever which sounds rather ignorant - He also has Space-X which gets billions of dollars in contracts from the Govt so he is not going anywhere. I think the tailgate ramp design is wonderful - I mean if a 3 year old could do these things then why didn't the current truck manufacturers think of any of this? They would rather be at status quo.. We need someone like Elon to disrupt the industry so that the others might follow suit with their own innovations... The more the merrier!

Remember Elon said there will be no haggling while buying a Tesla and everyone laughed about how it will fail - he stuck with it... I am not a Tesla fan boy by any means I haven't owned any electric vehicles but I can appreciate good innovation and design. This one still has 2-3 more years so lets see what the final version will be.

Yeah, reading comprehension is apparently low.

As long as the government subsidizes him he will be fine. The design still looks like that of a 6 year old.

JC

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[Hurley82]

Yeah, reading comprehension is apparently low.

As long as the government subsidizes him he will be fine. The design still looks like that of a 6 year old.

JC

Ya and as long as the US government continues to create big oil friendly policies and subsidizes the industry in the billions of dollars every year we can all continue to afford to drive our gladiator’s. /S

This is such a weak one sided argument against Tesla that chooses to ignore all sides of an argument.

 

[SleepyJeep]

Ya and as long as the US government continues to create big oil friendly policies and subsidizes the industry in the billions of dollars every year we can all continue to afford to drive our gladiator’s. /S

This is such a weak one sided argument against Tesla that chooses to ignore all sides of an argument.

LOL, Yeah I really don't care to get into some silly name calling and talk about other people's reading comprehension skills or grammar skills and just reject some ideas based on their own ignorance or strong conviction which they have every right to. That 's why I didn't even bother to respond .

I bought a Gladiator LE and some people said I am overpaying for it, not getting anything special blah blah. I ordered the Tri-Motor Cybertruck and I am sure people will disagree with whatever that truck offers. I just buy what I like and I am happy with my purchases and not to mention that I am blessed to not worry about a few thousand dollars, so I have no regrets.

 

[xpcdoojk]

Ya and as long as the US government continues to create big oil friendly policies and subsidizes the industry in the billions of dollars every year we can all continue to afford to drive our gladiator’s. /S

This is such a weak one sided argument against Tesla that chooses to ignore all sides of an argument.

Ok, please show me the electric rockets that Space X makes. Oil is the only thing economically viable to make airplanes fly. Oil is a necessity. Electric cars mostly are powered by coal and natural gas. Green tech is just another millennial unicorn show fantasy.

When you considered all sides of an electric car they are far more harmful to the planet than a regular car.

Just sayin....

Think for yourselves. I think Teslas are cool tech.... wouldn’t mind having one. That said, I wouldn’t do it to save the planet.

JC

 

[WXman]

Ok, please show me the electric rockets that Space X makes. Oil is the only thing economically viable to make airplanes fly. Oil is a necessity. Electric cars mostly are powered by coal and natural gas. Green tech is just another millennial unicorn show fantasy.

When you considered all sides of an electric car they are far more harmful to the planet than a regular car.

Just sayin....

Think for yourselves. I think Teslas are cool tech.... wouldn’t mind having one. That said, I wouldn’t do it to save the planet.

JC

This. The average EV will require YEARS just to break even on the amount of emissions and pollutants the factory produced to manufacture it. This is all a dog and pony show.

Think about ALL the things that have totally changed in the last 120 years. Almost everything has gone through massive advancement. But you know what hasn't? The automobile. They still use tires, wheels, axles, transmissions, and petroleum fueled combustion engines to power them after all this time. Why? It's the best way.

EVs will never be mainstream in my lifetime. Too many infrastructure issues, safety issues, practicality issues, financial issues, hacking vulnerability and to top it all off Americans enjoy driving. They don't want to feel like they're riding in an appliance.

 

[kndrewa]

This article focuses on 4x4 considerations:

https://www.motortrend.com/news/tesla-cybertruck-electric-pickup-off-roading/

 

[TrailHiker]

Electric Vehicles do not use much brake shoes, my wife’s Volt is 5 years old, and still on original brakes.
All electric do not use oil, every 3-6K mikes, only lube is in wheel bearings, so not oil free, but uses a lot less.
The onboard gas generator only gets an annual oil change, combined gas/electric avg. mileage is 45-55 mpg for out I’d town trips, and all local driving is battery electric only. Cost of buying gas vs electric charging, buying electricity off the grid is less, and about 25-percent of our power is green generated.
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[Hurley82]

Ok, please show me the electric rockets that Space X makes. Oil is the only thing economically viable to make airplanes fly. Oil is a necessity. Electric cars mostly are powered by coal and natural gas. Green tech is just another millennial unicorn show fantasy.

When you considered all sides of an electric car they are far more harmful to the planet than a regular car.

Just sayin....

Think for yourselves. I think Teslas are cool tech.... wouldn’t mind having one. That said, I wouldn’t do it to save the planet.

JC

Lol. Think for myself? Your funny. I drive a Gladiator obviously I’m not some tree hugging anti oil protestor. As with any new tech theres room to grow especially with battery production. I am willing to acknowledge that oil is essential to almost all industries. What people like you can’t comprehend is that we also must move forward and that means innovation and technology. Some of that may be a miss, shit happens but as a society we keep pushing the boundaries. Unfortunately as a society these days there are too few people willing to meet in the middle and acknowledge the importance and impact on both sides, whether it be electric vs gas, Healthcare etc. A lack of critical thinking is a problem in this country.

I’m going to go do some snow bashing in my Gladiator and burn a few gallons.

 

[SleepyJeep]

Ok, please show me the electric rockets that Space X makes. Oil is the only thing economically viable to make airplanes fly. Oil is a necessity. Electric cars mostly are powered by coal and natural gas. Green tech is just another millennial unicorn show fantasy.

When you considered all sides of an electric car they are far more harmful to the planet than a regular car.

Just sayin....

Think for yourselves. I think Teslas are cool tech.... wouldn’t mind having one. That said, I wouldn’t do it to save the planet.

JC

Dude no one is talking about saving the planet, nor did we talk about the merits and demerits of Electric Vs Gasoline. We are talking about the Cybertruck. Everything else is in your head...

 

[TheSolarWizard]

I would also like to add, that unless you are living in a part of the world where getting shot at is legitimately a bigger risk then getting into a car crash bullet proof glass is a super bad idea.

Picture this, its February, some idiot just slid through a red light T boning you, you are now trapped upside down in your mangled stainless armored car... bystanders are doing all they can to break the window and get you out, the fire department is still 10 minutes away with the jaws... and you smell smoke. I would never want armored glass in my car, I live in Michigan, not Mogadishu.

Close enough to Chicago

 

[TheSolarWizard]

That’s brutal. Tesloop Is using them as fleet vehicles and they’ve had nowhere near that many problems with 500,000ish miles. They have a million miles across their fleet.

Have you had this bad reliability across all three vehicles?

Tesloop is defunct FYI

 

[SleepyJeep]

Think about ALL the things that have totally changed in the last 120 years. Almost everything has gone through massive advancement. But you know what hasn't? The automobile. They still use tires, wheels, axles, transmissions, and petroleum fueled combustion engines to power them after all this time. Why? It's the best way.

I hafta disagree with this logic. To give you an example of why this logic isn't how it works in the real world - Nokia had a handheld full screen touchscreen phone in their labs much before Apple, but Nokia's money guys and people in charge decided to "shelve" that innovation to keep the cash cow of their phone business going cuz it was generating billions of $$ for them. If it ain't broke, don't fix it or improve it logic. We all know what happened after Apple released the iPhone... So, I am sure there are a lot of corporate heads in the automotive/oil sector who believe in that theory and not really push advances at break neck pace because it affects their bottom line and their current revenue stream. So, just to say that some innovation hasn't happened in one sector and that is because what we have is the best way is rather one dimensional and naive.

As I have mentioned in some other thread before, I personally am not excited about electrics - I would like to see Hydrogen Fuel Cell cars more than anything but that might not happen in my lifetime either... But, I would like to own a Cybertruck - it will be my first electric unless of course VW releases that Bus in an electric that floors me then I really have to decide LOL.

 

[DTDHI]

I feel like Toyota could of built this truck ages ago as part of their Hybrid lineup in both Tundra or Tacoma size

 

[DaveNH]

I really don't understand some of the people who say Elon being a billionaire is on a con job and he will go bankrupt or whatever which sounds rather ignorant -

I don't think they mean that he will personally go bankrupt.

It's not so outlandish to think that Tesla might, however.

Tesla has never turned an annual profit, and if I'm not mistaken, has only ever posted 5 profitable quarters.

Their sales have arguably been helped by federal and state EV tax credits, especially for the Model 3, where the tax credit might mean the difference between affordable and not for lower-mid middle class families.

But the federal credit is currently being phased out for Tesla. The loss of the credit could push potential buyers into a cheaper Prius or Ioniq.

I'm not saying that Tesla is doomed, but thus far they haven't been a model of financial success.

Elon also comes across as a bit shady at times. Sometimes it seems like Tesla is running in a Ponzi-esque manner, with big announcements and taking deposits, in order to fund current production.

See: Model 3. Elon claims 455k net reservations, at $1000 deposit per customer. That's a big chunk of change, and yet the Model 3 was extremely delayed, especially the so called "affordable" base model.

Now look at the Cybertuck. It's reported that they had over 200k reservations in the first day, at $100 per. That's a cool $20 million.

Add in that it's tough to find any info on Model Y preorders, which are supposed to be delivered next summer, after many were disappointed with the Model 3 rollout. It makes it seem like the Cybertruck preorder is a cash grab to prop up the Model Y.

Jmo.

 

[giskard]

EVs will never be mainstream in my lifetime. Too many infrastructure issues, safety issues, practicality issues, financial issues, hacking vulnerability and to top it all off Americans enjoy driving. They don't want to feel like they're riding in an appliance.

I wouldn't count on this one. More Americans chose electric cars than a manual transmission last quarter. Take rates are quite a bit higher in other parts of the world (notably China and Norway). Most automakers offer at least one BEV nowadays and several are spending billions to stand up or convert manufacturing capacity for electric cars. Tesla may very well build close to 500,000 EVs by itself next year. Even the JT is supposed to get a plug-in hybrid variant before too long. EVs are nearing mainstream status already - I see them all over the place when I visit the Minneapolis area. I saw a Model 3 just the other day between Grand Rapids and Duluth (pretty rural area).

I'm not saying all ICE cars will disappear any time soon, but EVs are here to stay I think. I would not be at all surprised if my i3s and almost-here JT are the last vehicles I get that burn dino juice.

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