Torsen/TrueTrac helical limited slip differential?

[RodRecket]

Bringing this back up. Eaton announced truetrac for 2011-current ram. I've bugged them twice, maybe we can keep them on MOPAR and get a push for the gladiator. Wishful thinking but hoping we can get their attention.

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[MrKnowitall]

Now that the Bronco and (presumably) 2023 Ranger will also use the M220 rear axle, maybe we’ll finally get one.

 

[Murgatroid]

Question, if they make a LSD for the Gladiator, would the traction control have to be disabled since I would think the mechanical LSD and the ETC would fight each other with the traction applying brake to the wheel that the LSD was locking.

 

[MrKnowitall]

Question, if they make a LSD for the Gladiator, would the traction control have to be disabled since I would think the mechanical LSD and the ETC would fight each other with the traction applying brake to the wheel that the LSD was locking.

No VDC and TC work totally fine with an open diff, lsd and even locker. Helical gear LSDs are amazing with brake based, simulated LSD function, such as what comes on the JL and JT. Far less brake force is required with the Truetrac,

 

[CrazyCooter]

No VDC and TC work totally fine with an open diff, lsd and even locker. Helical gear LSDs are amazing with brake based, simulated LSD function, such as what comes on the JL and JT. Far less brake force is required with the Truetrac,

Agreed! The Truetrac gets aggressive with a little braked traction control......

Now if we can just get Eaton to build us one!

 

[MrKnowitall]

Agreed! The Truetrac gets aggressive with a little braked traction control......

Now if we can just get Eaton to build us one!

Until now, there just weren’t enough non-Rubicon (locked) M220 axles. Keep telling them (directly) and your retailer that you want one.

 

[MarcusB]

I would totally install a Truetrac on the front of my Mojave if they made one! I keep checking.

 

[LostWoods]

Until now, there just weren’t enough non-Rubicon (locked) M220 axles. Keep telling them (directly) and your retailer that you want one.

That really hasn't changed... The D44 Bronco is the Squatch package so it's still just the Titan and JT.

 

[MrKnowitall]

That really hasn't changed... The D44 Bronco is the Squatch package so it's still just the Titan and JT.

Nope. According to their literature, Broncos use the same rear axle, just different diffs and gears. Also, Diesel and 4xe JLs use the M220. The Titan uses the M226, IIRC. The Ranger and Frontier may use them as well.

 

[LostWoods]

Nope. According to their literature, Broncos use the same rear axle, just different diffs and gears. Also, Diesel and 4xe JLs use the M220. The Titan uses the M226, IIRC. The Ranger and Frontier may use them as well.

Just looked up the official sheet and I'm glad they changed that... still would have been nice to see the M210 front across the line though.

 

[kd1yt]

I continue to hope that a helical diff will eventually become available. Nitro Gear & Axle supports some other d44 variants so maybe they could also be encouraged to bring something out. I know less about their quality and track record than Eaton, although for all I know, Eaton may have theirs made offshore anyways by now.
https://www.nitro-gear.com/category-s/1796.htm

 

[mx5red]

No VDC and TC work totally fine with an open diff, lsd and even locker. Helical gear LSDs are amazing with brake based, simulated LSD function, such as what comes on the JL and JT. Far less brake force is required with the Truetrac,

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[MrKnowitall]

Just looked up the official sheet and I'm glad they changed that... still would have been nice to see the M210 front across the line though.

I think take rate should be pretty high, so salvage units should be a viable swap for lesser Broncos and next-gen Rangers.

 

[rolape2]

I even toyed with the idea of using a Truetrac for the Titan and a set of gears. Should fit the housing and be stronger. Problem is the pinion has a different spline count. You could possibly use the titan yoke and then get a custom driveshaft. But at that point the cost would start getting carried away,,,, and the wife would probably kick me out.

 

[Sturm451]

I asked Eaton about it. Their response:
"Thank you for your interest in this differential application. However, at this time there are no current public plans to develop this application.

Thanks,
-Eaton Performance Support"

Public being the operative word. I feel like if they weren't interested in making them eventually, they would have just said they have no plans. It's probably worthwhile to continue harassing Eaton about it.

I asked Torsen as well as Eaton and actually got a quick response from Torsen Traction’s Rick Barnes.

He said “We do not offer anything for the Gladiator at this time, but we anticipate introducing something later this year.”

That’s gives me hope that there will be one on the market in time for when the clutch packs on my trac-loc need replacing.

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