Updated steering in Gladiator?

  1. billyjk7

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    I have heard that there are a bunch of issues with the JL Wrangler having to do with death wobble. I saw a note the other day on another forum saying that they were upgrading the track bar and tyronne with upgraded joints. Will the new Gladiator have those changes and initially or is that something that will be done later on?
     
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    I haven't heard death wobble, but I did test drive a JL Rubicon last year and it felt very loose to me... it was uncomfortable. Different people had different thoughts on it, though one YouTuber played around with different components and managed to tighten it up. It feels like it might come out of the factory feeling squirrely... so hopefully they've dialed that in.
     
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    Good question. I would hope everything off the line going forward gets the upgrade, both JLs and JTs. Be nice if we could get this confirmed.
     
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    I believe they also had a batch of JL front axles with loose lower ball joints which contributed to vague steering. That should be fixed now.
     
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    From what I read there are 2 issues. 1 with electric steering where steering wheel locks or is hard to turn in a curve and 2 front axle vibration from hardware components that seems to have more problems with aftermarket lifts. It is a solid front axle in some case with atleast 2.5” lift and 35s. So not surprised it’s a different feel than other suvs.
     
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    Every time I see someone complaining about Jeep and death wobble they are talking about a rig with aftermarket suspension and or they beat the hell out of there rigs rock crawling. If you lift if. If you craw it. It is not a problem with Jeep.

    Wranglers and the Gladiator are solid axel vehicles made to be off road capable. It will never drive like a car.
     
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    Unfortunately, there were a great number of stock, brand new rigs with wandering, vague steering. There's actually a tsb for new Jl wranglers noting there are issues with ball joints, and track bar bushings and end joints
     
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    Lite Brite got a whole new Jeep because of steering issues.
     
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    Yes, finally ! . . . I believe I mentioned that a day or 2 ago, either here on a JT thread or at JL ! The Bushings it was noted are being replaced with a Harder material - and I mentioned there is a company we've all seen in (I think?) the Sema show video(s) that has many New Products for the JL/JT for Lifts and all the "trimmings" related . . . especially of note (I thought) were the NEW RUBBER Products (Bushings +) ! A general jeep related YouTube search should bring up all sorts of answers !
     
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    I "believe," with a few grains of salt, that the MINORITY of JL's with "issues of this nature," are ones that have been altered in some ways after purchase !? True too, I also believe the engineers made some "ill-advised calls" and may have "compromised" in places they should not have - how's that for being "diplomatic" ? ;) And, it's the "nature of the beast" - Wranglers are unique, don't you think ? It's what sets them apart & above "the others" ! Straight axles, sway bars, disconnecting this & that . . . lot's of moving/rubbing parts and stress points vs. todays independent suspensions, which have their own unique "issues" ! SO, you want to Off Road in a hard top, independent-suspension jeep (or other?) - take your pick > Renegade to G.C. (for now - Wagoneers later?).
    My "pretty" 2016 G.C. posses well, but I constantly "fear" pin-striping it ! So I'm ready to make the change to some sort of Wrangler-esgue rig by years end !
    I find some like to pretend to themselves and to "us" that they might play it safe and get "such & such" cause that vehicle has a "proven" record . . . HOG WASH ! Do your own (easy research) on what ever vehicles your thinking about and find ALL kinds of OPINIONS, then get the FACTS from RELIABLE sources, more than one !
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    Please explain with more detail.
     
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    I test drove one of the new JLUR's when they first hit the showrooms and the steering was really flighty on it. Enough that I drove it right back into the dealership with the salesman. He asked what was wrong and I asked him if he had driven it.. He told me no, so I said you drive it. It freaked him out also on how loose it was. We both drive lifted JK's and our steering is solid. We drove a different JLUR and it's steering was better, still soft, but better. I found out later that the first JLUR was taken back by FCA... Hmmm. I do believe that the JL steering is better than my JK, just doesn't has as much feed back, which is probably what a lot of us feel in the difference.

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    The JLUR I test drove had much better steering than my Teraflex 2'' lifted 2012 JK.
     
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    It doesn't affect all of them, or even most of them. But it's a legitimate issue.
     
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    Understood.
     
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