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[Vincent]

Same. I’ve had 8, and have two currently. Couldn’t be happier with the brand.

Right on!!!

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[JamesJimmyD]

can not tell you how many times I've said
"i wished i kept that 19xx truck, i never had a problem with it and was simple to maintain"

i like my Gladiator, it has done everything that I've asked of it.

 

[White Eagle]

If a company started making an “old truck” for real they would outsale everything on the market.

A keyed Ignition
No key fob
No complex computer and enter info system
No TPMS
Less pollution crap
Old School workhorse engine and tranny

 

[KrispyKotex]

I've always had a jeep since I was in my 20s. When the Gladiator came out, I honestly did not like it and thought it was too long and "boxy" compared to my other Jeeps. I decided to go with a Gladiator back in '22 mainly for the extra room and to up my game with towing larger things than a ATV or John boat. As others have stated, it's not a full-sized truck, but it's a mix of everything else. Top removal, doors off, and off-roading, are all positive things. Can't do that with any other truck on the market.

 

[Zachanadandy]

If a company started making an “old truck” for real they would outsale everything on the market.

A keyed Ignition
No key fob
No complex computer and enter info system
No TPMS
Less pollution crap
Old School workhorse engine and tranny

That's what everyone says... but nobody actually buys. The wrangler was available with a tiny 5" screen base radio, manual windows, manual tranny, etc as base as you can get (tpms is mandated now, as are airbags, abs, etc) and nobody bought them. Even half the old school Jeepers arguing for these stripped models on the JL forum when actual pressed for what they bought drive loaded up Rubicons. Nobody was buying them so more and more options became standard simply to simplify the build process. The idea that a modern vehicle with computer controlled engine and transmission will be more reliable because you put a base radio and manual windows in it is borderline insanity. Everything that matters and could leave you stranded is still computer controlled and dependent on sensors and wiring, but you get to crank the window down and pretend it's the 80s? Hard pass, and the vast majority of buyers passed on that idea which is why it's now gone.

 

[WILDHOBO]

If I wasn't going to wheel it, I never understood the midsize truck market anyway. A parking spot is a parking spot. I park the JT in the same spaces I used to park my super duty and the same ones I park my company prius in. Smaller with worse truck specs, interior space, and only slightly better fuel economy and at comparable prices? Where the draw aside from wheeling/ fitting on right trails. If I wanted a street truck with mild off road ability I'd still be in a ram rebel. The thing got better fuel economy on 35s with the 5.7L even driven like I wanted to use all 400hp than the gladiator does on 37s by about 30%. Towed more, way more interior space, more payload, and it was almost $10k less msrp.

I agree completely. If it weren’t for adventuring, it’d be a Silverado or a Ram.

 

[sharpsicle]

If a company started making an “old truck” for real they would outsale everything on the market.

A keyed Ignition
No key fob
No complex computer and enter info system
No TPMS
Less pollution crap
Old School workhorse engine and tranny

That's just not true, and exactly the kind of out-of-touch comment that makes these threads such an interesting read.

 

[WILDHOBO]

That's just not true, and exactly the kind of out-of-touch comment that makes these threads such an interesting read.

 

[Gvsukids]

If a company started making an “old truck” for real they would outsale everything on the market.

A keyed Ignition
No key fob
No complex computer and enter info system
No TPMS
Less pollution crap
Old School workhorse engine and tranny

I think Roxer does.

 

[Stan H]

The last generation 4runner was only ~14 years old and still had a 5 speed auto until the new one so if Jeeps following Toyotas lead there will be no new engine option and no real improvements until 2033? Pass. I'll take an antiquated v8 over toyotas hybrid/4cyl garbage any day. Perspective.

I loath ,hate abhor & detest Toyota trash. They are worthless off road up hill unless your in 4wd and in the lowside and the traction control turned off. If you push ine for 100,000 it will die. I know because over a period of 2 years I put 100,000 miles on one and blew it up. Every day was 4wd to get anywhere. You can barely pass anyone it is so slow . If you floor one to pass all the time they can't take it . They literally will come to a shudder and power completely out on grades above 20% . If you hit a whitetail you better had a whole new front clip they are toast . I wouldn't take a toyota if you gave me one. I wouldn't want the stigma.

 

[Red Hot Sloth]

Back in the day when my kids were…well, kids, I wanted a jeep but due to being in the trades, needed the utility of a truck. As my age and status has changed my need for a full fledged truck has waned but still wanted “some” utility. I was pretty stoked in 2019 when I bought my Gladiator as its a Jeep and still has enough utility to meet my needs. Its a LEGO toy for adults, its fun, extremely capable and considering its a Jeep, quite modern. We can complain that its too modern (recent talking point on here)if we compare it to the weather-ability of Jeeps of past. If I wanted something more modern with more luxury conveniences I could have bought it but at a great compromise of tinkerability, lack of aftermarket support, lack of trail worthiness lack of soul lack of history and lack of esprit de corps.
Many of the Jeep buyers in the market mostly know what they/we are buying into, knowing theres going to be a compromise of what I would call luxury modern conveniences. I hear G-Wagons are incredibly capable but I havent witnessed any on any of the trails or deserts thats Ive been to, not that it hasnt happened but I’m sure its pretty rare.
Caveat Emptor

 

[WambliSka]

Jeep will sell the Gladiator as long as the numbers work; otherwise, the Jeep Truck Graveyard For a niche vehicle. Just sayin'

Yep, capitalism works that way. But I’ve been hearing about the Gladiator’s demise since 2020, when they first came out, from folks just guessing with zero actual insight into the matter or facts to back it up. And the core vehicle has been around since WW-II.

Actually Wranglers in every shape and trim have buried scores of other “mass appeal” vehicles and even all sort of other wannabe vehicles that have been branded “Jeep” by the owners of the brand. And the fact is that many and old Jeep today brings in more money in the used market than what it cost new.

And yes they are a “niche” vehicle. Only those that “get it” need to step into the dealership. This is my fourth Jeep and I’ve tried other cars in between. No need to do that anymore. I’ll just stick with what makes sense for my lifestyle.

This is where my Gladiator took my daughter, my son in law, my wife and I today with a truckload of shooting gear. Didn’t see no Tacos or anything else but another Jeep on top of the Mesa. °lllll° There’s only one Jeep

 

[WambliSka]

BTW about 3 months ago in a very tight parking lot I was a hair distracted and backed up (as in LIGHTLY TOUCHED) into the tailgate of a brand new Taco. I left a mark the size of a quarter on a panel on his tailgate. His repair bill was $1,900 which my insurance paid. He had to replace a whole bunch of plastic crap, the backup camera and reprogramming etc. Mine was… ZERO.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

And I always struggle to understand why these are compared to any other mid sized truck ever. They’re wranglers and pickups combined. I bought it because I wanted a wrangler that could tow better than a wrangler. Other than that, it’s a toy that pretends to be a truck. I couldn’t be happier. It was never meant to be a serious truck. It’s meant to be a fun one.

It's as serious as many people need it.........

 

[ShadowsPapa]

and the promise of an antiquated V-8 all for an overpriced mid-sized truck.

NO ONE PROMISED any V8 for the Gladiator. Where did you get the idea we got the promise of a V8? No one promised that except in a few people's heads reading the rags that misquoted or put out misleading stories.

It may be an older V8 design, but it's still moving pretty strong. What do you expect?

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