What is an unpopular opinion you have in the Jeep community?

[WetWilly]

This pickup truck is the perfect size for me. I have a GMC 2500HD, JKUR, & a GC Trailhawk and this little pickup is the one I find myself driving the most. It is the most practical vehicle for me at this point in my life. It's has proven very reliable and gets as good of gas mileage as my much newer but much heavier wrangler and GC. It is easily maneuvered along the tight twisty two tracks of northern Michigan's backwoods as well as in the big city of TC. I can fit my bike in the bed, fully assembled with the tailgate closed and I don't have to hang the front tire out of the bed and over the tailgate. I sleep in the bed with the topper on during my UP-camping trips.

Jeep is straying away from building small practical nimble offroad vehicles with their recent introduction of the Wagoneer and L versions of the Grand Cherokee and Wagoneer as it is easier to meet CAFE regulations by building larger vehicles. This is the sole reason why the 4 door Wrangler was invented as a well as the overly long 4 door Gladiator. It amazes me that some are easily convinced that a platform as long as the Gladiator is acceptable as a viable and practical vehicle for off road travel. Believe me, I have heavily considered it but thankfully witnessed friend's challenges and shortcomings their Gladiators bring along with them on the trails.

A 2-door gladiator would be the perfect little, nimble, and practical off-road vehicle to replace my 27-year-old ZR2.

It sure would have been nice to have had that option. Not everyone has car seats, pets etc etc to haul around in the back seat. I believe had it of been an option we would be seeing them everywhere. I had a Scrambler years ago and a MJ and not being able to fit was never a problem.

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[AmishMike]

This pickup truck is the perfect size for me. I have a GMC 2500HD, JKUR, & a GC Trailhawk and this little pickup

Who invited this guy?

 

[NachoRuby]

This pickup truck is the perfect size for me. I have a GMC 2500HD, JKUR, & a GC Trailhawk and this little pickup is the one I find myself driving the most. It is the most practical vehicle for me at this point in my life. It's has proven very reliable and gets as good of gas mileage as my much newer but much heavier wrangler and GC. It is easily maneuvered along the tight twisty two tracks of northern Michigan's backwoods as well as in the big city of TC. I can fit my bike in the bed, fully assembled with the tailgate closed and I don't have to hang the front tire out of the bed and over the tailgate. I sleep in the bed with the topper on during my UP-camping trips.

Jeep is straying away from building small practical nimble offroad vehicles with their recent introduction of the Wagoneer and L versions of the Grand Cherokee and Wagoneer as it is easier to meet CAFE regulations by building larger vehicles. This is the sole reason why the 4 door Wrangler was invented as a well as the overly long 4 door Gladiator. It amazes me that some are easily convinced that a platform as long as the Gladiator is acceptable as a viable and practical vehicle for off road travel. Believe me, I have heavily considered it but thankfully witnessed friend's challenges and shortcomings their Gladiators bring along with them on the trails.

A 2-door gladiator would be the perfect little, nimble, and practical off-road vehicle to replace my 27-year-old ZR2.

I think the 4 door gladiator and Wrangler were invented because 4 door SUVs and trucks sell better. A lot better. JKUs were 75% of all JK sales, and now on the JL, only 12% are 2 door. The two door is becoming a dying breed for all vehicles, for reasons beyond CAFE.

 

[seven30]

This pickup truck is the perfect size for me. I have a GMC 2500HD, JKUR, & a GC Trailhawk and this little pickup is the one I find myself driving the most. It is the most practical vehicle for me at this point in my life. It's has proven very reliable and gets as good of gas mileage as my much newer but much heavier wrangler and GC. It is easily maneuvered along the tight twisty two tracks of northern Michigan's backwoods as well as in the big city of TC. I can fit my bike in the bed, fully assembled with the tailgate closed and I don't have to hang the front tire out of the bed and over the tailgate. I sleep in the bed with the topper on during my UP-camping trips.

Jeep is straying away from building small practical nimble offroad vehicles with their recent introduction of the Wagoneer and L versions of the Grand Cherokee and Wagoneer as it is easier to meet CAFE regulations by building larger vehicles. This is the sole reason why the 4 door Wrangler was invented as a well as the overly long 4 door Gladiator. It amazes me that some are easily convinced that a platform as long as the Gladiator is acceptable as a viable and practical vehicle for off road travel. Believe me, I have heavily considered it but thankfully witnessed friend's challenges and shortcomings their Gladiators bring along with them on the trails.

A 2-door gladiator would be the perfect little, nimble, and practical off-road vehicle to replace my 27-year-old ZR2.

Absolutely! A 2dr Gladiator would be sweet. Id have to remove the passenger seat to make room for the dog though. But such sacrifices would be a small price to pay

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[Oilburner]

The whole ‘duck’ thing is asinine

 

[Alans17]

The whole ‘duck’ thing is asinine

I thought it was neat until I got a couple. Now it’s like what’s the point? What do I do with these things? They live on the dash but probably not for much longer.

 

[NachoRuby]

The whole ‘duck’ thing is asinine

If I see you, I'll be sure to share some ducks with you haha! My wife got ducked for the first time last week. She was so excited.

 

[AmishMike]

Ducks are fun because it is a good way to say hello.
If you are not into them, recycle them. Give yours away to some other Jeep. Maybe it will make their day.
I did get a Matchbox Jeep once. That was cool!

 

[skiptheroad]

I think the 4 door gladiator and Wrangler were invented because 4 door SUVs and trucks sell better. A lot better. JKUs were 75% of all JK sales, and now on the JL, only 12% are 2 door. The two door is becoming a dying breed for all vehicles, for reasons beyond CAFE.

Yup, that's what most people think. CAFE regulations have a much bigger impact on auto manufacturers development decisions. Their marketing for what they want consumers to purchase is precise and potent. Your statement only validates that their marketing is successful. They are not going to promote the fact that they stopped producing small pickups, sedans, and stations wagons because producing larger pickup trucks was much more profitable having less foreign competition as well as being much easier to meet CAFE requirements. They all but abandoned several market segments which even included the mid-size pickup for several years. Toyota was the only company that has not abandoned any of their market segments. Ask the question why GM, Ford, and Dodge stopped producing the Colorado, Sport-Trac, and Dakota, all of which were available in crew cab 4 door configurations. There is no denying that the production of small, short wheelbase pickup trucks was directly impacted by CAFE regulations as well as sedans and station wagons. The number of doors really even isn't the issue but rather the vehicle classification and its footprint area.

 

[Barnaby’sdad]

Stinger bumpers look like shit.

 

[Kblanton]

I think Ducks are a girl thing.....

 

[Rusty PW]

I think Ducks are a girl thing.....

Bet if you get one. You would be tickled pink.

 

[Kblanton]

Girl or duck?

I have both.

 

[NachoRuby]

Yup, that's what most people think. CAFE regulations have a much bigger impact on auto manufacturers development decisions. Their marketing for what they want consumers to purchase is precise and potent. Your statement only validates that their marketing is successful. They are not going to promote the fact that they stopped producing small pickups, sedans, and stations wagons because producing larger pickup trucks was much more profitable having less foreign competition as well as being much easier to meet CAFE requirements. They all but abandoned several market segments which even included the mid-size pickup for several years. Toyota was the only company that has not abandoned any of their market segments. Ask the question why GM, Ford, and Dodge stopped producing the Colorado, Sport-Trac, and Dakota, all of which were available in crew cab 4 door configurations. There is no denying that the production of small, short wheelbase pickup trucks was directly impacted by CAFE regulations as well as sedans and station wagons. The number of doors really even isn't the issue but rather the vehicle classification and its footprint area.

No, it's just that I have had a two door wrangler before. It was a pia when I needed to carry anything but otherwise, was great, until I had a kid, and needed to use a rear facing carseat. The rear facing carseat didn't fit unless the front seat was all the way up, which meant knees in the dashboard. The trunk was too small to carry groceries. I had to take the top off to remove the rear facing carseat. As an extra vehicle, it's ok, and now that my kid is older, we're thinking about getting one to replace the JKU. But only because it's cheaper, otherwise, we'd go 4 door again. With small kids and stuff to carry, 2 doors isnt usually practical. By the way, I have a 2 door car too. Don't drive it much anymore. Too much of a hassle to carry things, kids don't fit in back, etc. If I have to pick between only having a two door or only having a four door, 4 door wins every time for me. When I was younger, I thought differently, because no kids. When I get older, and kids are no longer in the back, I'll think differently. But 33 year old me with two kids and a whole lot of stuff to carry picks 4 door.

Yes, back in the day, my parents did it. But, carseats were less bulky, and not rear facing, and having a spare car was cheaper. Also, my knees were always digging at my parents back, so no one was comfortable from the time I was 8 years old on. Nowadays, it's more economical to have a jack of all trades, even if it's a master of none.

 

[Alans17]

Just one guy’s opinion so I’m letting it rip…

Bead locks are ugly, but they get a pass because they’re functional. Fake bead locks are ugly and stupid. Anybody that knows wheels well enough to know what a bead lock is already knows the real ones from the fakes. You’re not fooling anyone.

*ducks for cover*

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