Here's a good argument...its annoying. I generally eliminate annoying things from my life and this was no exception. :D
Interesting. Have you ever heard a compelling argument for it? It simply does not have any real reason to exist. In my opinion
It exists because of government regulations. Using it allows FCA to sell a Jeep with a V6 in it. It does save fuel, if the engine is stopped for at least seven seconds. At least we have the option to disable it. When Trump leaves the White House, their next attempt will be to take away the option to disable and to have a V6.Interesting. Have you ever heard a compelling argument for it? It simply does not have any real reason to exist. In my opinion
Yes, so It does serve no purpose for engine function, no real reason. ... When the fringe is gone yes changes in the new car market, sure enough, and the same choice to reform or be frail minded in industry leadership. They can do anything they want, hell make a V-12, but they have to pay for it, instead of keeping their profits. The rules don't say you can't. They say if you do this, then that. Well, give up your tee time and your gated community, but don't blame it on what is best for the oversll good of the nation. This whole argument that taxes, regulation are bad is midget compared to the strength of leading Americans who argue for actually paying ones way. But I moralize. Anyway, yes, agree it's going the way you said.
EXACTLY!!! It's a Jeep, number 1, and number 2, it's the dumbest thing I've ever seen. I've never owned a vehicle with it before, and don't intend on owning another one (at least, one that I can't turn it off or disable it permanently). The Tazer JL Mini helps with that. I installed the Tazer, adjusted everything, reset it, turned off the ESS, and it is automatically turned off (as if I manually pushed the button each time) every time I crank the Jeep. Out of sight, out of mind.Interesting. Have you ever heard a compelling argument for it? It simply does not have any real reason to exist. In my opinion
I dunno man. We need to get right. All this BS backed up by BS. This nation hasn't been this full of shit since 'I can't believe it's not butter" came out. That's before your time. Any the fix is up to millennials. Godspeed to you!!!
Oh no, I remember that stuff... I'm 34...
Oh no, I remember that stuff... I'm 34...
Also, I don't identify as "the M-word"... I grew up around older kids and Gen-X'ers, so I'm more like a Millennial with a Gen-X anarchist attitude. I'm old enough to have some wisdom, but anti-government, and pro-1A & 2A and pro-Constitution. I'm a mix of things that the likes of this world has never seen before... It typically scares people when I first meet them if politics gets brought up. Let's just say most people have never encountered a truly educated Sigma-Alpha.
I would like to take this on a slight detour. Temporarily putting aside whether or not ESS saves gas or adds more wear. And keeping in mind I do not have my Gladiator yet.
It isn't going anywhere and the EPA incentivize automakers to use it. So unless you are going E-vehicle or never buying a new vehicle it is likely unavoidable. The incentives will continue to include an inability to permanently disable it, most likely. Unless you do what some of us have done and program it out of the system permanently.
How did you program it out if the system permanently? My Tazer keeps it turned off, but not aware of any tuners that allow full-disability in the ECM. I hope the next Tazer update allows a selection option for fully disabling it in the EVIC, like they do the TPMS system.
I should have said disable. Tazer does it but there's also an inline "chip" that just gives the button a memory....meaning you can leave it on or off permanently and it doesn't restart every time you turn the vehicle off/on.
Copy that. That might be a cheaper option for folks. I like all the other features of the Tazer, as well as needed to adjust tire size. The high beams w/ fogs is another huge plus. So for me, it was worth the money.
