Wind noise, leak, need a part number

[RSK]

Took the Gladiator to the dealership and they didn't even try. Gave me the ol' "It's a Jeep thing" comment even though the drivers side was quiet. (Useless).

I've been adjusting, taping and testing for 2 months up and down the highway, then saw this thread.

Thanks for this information, I tested your fix and I have the same issue. I can turn it on and off, so root cause is found.
Ordering the Part #68282864AG now....

Much Appreciated!!!

Good news, glad to help[/QUOTE]

bgenlvtex: I completely agree with this statement "This part is a poorly designed piece of crap, and looks like it is also out of spec."

My Jeep JK part like that is a rigid solid plastic part with no wind noise. This JL/JT part is rubbery plastic and has too much movement. Also, I agree this part looks out of spec and doesn't line up in the corners. Also, the one main mounting point in the center is a design flaw in general. Just poorly done overall.

I ended up using grey automotive 3M VHB double sided tape and clear silicon around the edges on the back side. I reinstalled, clamped it down and wait for the part to dry and adhere well over the weekend. Took it on the highway this morning and like yours, 90% improvement. There is still some slight wind noise, but about the same at the drivers side now and that is probably just drafting at 75 MPH. Just hope it holds the bond and the wind noise doesn't come back.

JeepCares, you need put in a TSB with FCA and redesign this part to be a solid piece of ridged plastic like the JK. Getting tired of fixing all these mistakes in my own garage.

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[bgenlvtex]

Good news, glad to help

bgenlvtex: I completely agree with this statement "This part is a poorly designed piece of crap, and looks like it is also out of spec."

My Jeep JK part like that is a rigid solid plastic part with no wind noise. This JL/JT part is rubbery plastic and has too much movement. Also, I agree this part looks out of spec and doesn't line up in the corners. Also, the one main mounting point in the center is a design flaw in general. Just poorly done overall.

I ended up using grey automotive 3M VHB double sided tape and clear silicon around the edges on the back side. I reinstalled, clamped it down and wait for the part to dry and adhere well over the weekend. Took it on the highway this morning and like yours, 90% improvement. There is still some slight wind noise, but about the same at the drivers side now and that is probably just drafting at 75 MPH. Just hope it holds the bond and the wind noise doesn't come back.

JeepCares, you need put in a TSB with FCA and redesign this part to be a solid piece of ridged plastic like the JK. Getting tired of fixing all these mistakes in my own garage.[/QUOTE]
Jeep needs to spend some time reading these forums and they would have more happy customers

 

[JeepCares]

Good news, glad to help

bgenlvtex: I completely agree with this statement "This part is a poorly designed piece of crap, and looks like it is also out of spec."

My Jeep JK part like that is a rigid solid plastic part with no wind noise. This JL/JT part is rubbery plastic and has too much movement. Also, I agree this part looks out of spec and doesn't line up in the corners. Also, the one main mounting point in the center is a design flaw in general. Just poorly done overall.

I ended up using grey automotive 3M VHB double sided tape and clear silicon around the edges on the back side. I reinstalled, clamped it down and wait for the part to dry and adhere well over the weekend. Took it on the highway this morning and like yours, 90% improvement. There is still some slight wind noise, but about the same at the drivers side now and that is probably just drafting at 75 MPH. Just hope it holds the bond and the wind noise doesn't come back.

JeepCares, you need put in a TSB with FCA and redesign this part to be a solid piece of ridged plastic like the JK. Getting tired of fixing all these mistakes in my own garage.[/QUOTE]

bgenlvtex: I completely agree with this statement "This part is a poorly designed piece of crap, and looks like it is also out of spec."

My Jeep JK part like that is a rigid solid plastic part with no wind noise. This JL/JT part is rubbery plastic and has too much movement. Also, I agree this part looks out of spec and doesn't line up in the corners. Also, the one main mounting point in the center is a design flaw in general. Just poorly done overall.

I ended up using grey automotive 3M VHB double sided tape and clear silicon around the edges on the back side. I reinstalled, clamped it down and wait for the part to dry and adhere well over the weekend. Took it on the highway this morning and like yours, 90% improvement. There is still some slight wind noise, but about the same at the drivers side now and that is probably just drafting at 75 MPH. Just hope it holds the bond and the wind noise doesn't come back.

JeepCares, you need put in a TSB with FCA and redesign this part to be a solid piece of ridged plastic like the JK. Getting tired of fixing all these mistakes in my own garage.

Jeep needs to spend some time reading these forums and they would have more happy customers[/QUOTE]

Hi RSK and bgenlvtex,
We're sorry to hear about your experience. If you would like to have this documented and addressed by your dealer, we would be happy to get you connected with a case specialist to assist you throughout the repair process. Please send our team a private message.
Alex
Jeep Social Care Specialist

 

[bgenlvtex]

bgenlvtex: I completely agree with this statement "This part is a poorly designed piece of crap, and looks like it is also out of spec."

My Jeep JK part like that is a rigid solid plastic part with no wind noise. This JL/JT part is rubbery plastic and has too much movement. Also, I agree this part looks out of spec and doesn't line up in the corners. Also, the one main mounting point in the center is a design flaw in general. Just poorly done overall.

I ended up using grey automotive 3M VHB double sided tape and clear silicon around the edges on the back side. I reinstalled, clamped it down and wait for the part to dry and adhere well over the weekend. Took it on the highway this morning and like yours, 90% improvement. There is still some slight wind noise, but about the same at the drivers side now and that is probably just drafting at 75 MPH. Just hope it holds the bond and the wind noise doesn't come back.

JeepCares, you need put in a TSB with FCA and redesign this part to be a solid piece of ridged plastic like the JK. Getting tired of fixing all these mistakes in my own garage.

Jeep needs to spend some time reading these forums and they would have more happy customers[/QUOTE]

Hi RSK and bgenlvtex,
We're sorry to hear about your experience. If you would like to have this documented and addressed by your dealer, we would be happy to get you connected with a case specialist to assist you throughout the repair process. Please send our team a private message.
Alex
Jeep Social Care Specialist[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the concern (sincerely) I addressed it with the dealer before I even took delivery.
"Characteristic of the vehicle" is what I was told.

Which is to say they were going to exert a minimal amount of effort, while maintaining their original position, in the end resulting in a self fulfilling prophecy.

I know myself better than anyone else on the planet, so in the interest of staying out of jail, fixing the wind leak, and avoiding lapsing into a stream of profanity that would make a Mexican prison guard blush, I fixed it myself for $7.50

 

[RSK]

Jeep needs to spend some time reading these forums and they would have more happy customers

Hi RSK and bgenlvtex,
We're sorry to hear about your experience. If you would like to have this documented and addressed by your dealer, we would be happy to get you connected with a case specialist to assist you throughout the repair process. Please send our team a private message.
Alex
Jeep Social Care Specialist[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the concern (sincerely) I addressed it with the dealer before I even took delivery.
"Characteristic of the vehicle" is what I was told.

Which is to say they were going to exert a minimal amount of effort, while maintaining their original position, in the end resulting in a self fulfilling prophecy.

I know myself better than anyone else on the planet, so in the interest of staying out of jail, fixing the wind leak, and avoiding lapsing into a stream of profanity that would make a Mexican prison guard blush, I fixed it myself for $7.50[/QUOTE]


Same here and appreciate the concern (truly). I did the troubleshooting and fixed myself after reading the posts on this site. If you read my original comments, the dealership had my vehicle for 2 days and didn't even try saying "its a jeep thing".

We only ask that you take this concern to FCA and open case to redesign the part and prevent issues like this for the next customers.

 

[STINGRAY2020]

I don't mean to bump an older thread but I purchased my gladiator two weeks ago and I'm suffering from wind noise from the drivers side over 30mph. I started to painters tape all around including the panel next to the side mirror but this is coming from the lower windshield seal OR the cowl under the hood. I contacted Jeep customer service and they opened a case. Short of the dealership keeping my car and trying to find out what it is does anyone have any idea? See pics

A couple weird things I did notice. Those torx bolts on the top of the hood area are already rusted but they don't even look used. And I have not removed the windshield yet.

 

[JeepCares]

I don't mean to bump an older thread but I purchased my gladiator two weeks ago and I'm suffering from wind noise from the drivers side over 30mph. I started to painters tape all around including the panel next to the side mirror but this is coming from the lower windshield seal OR the cowl under the hood. I contacted Jeep customer service and they opened a case. Short of the dealership keeping my car and trying to find out what it is does anyone have any idea? See pics

A couple weird things I did notice. Those torx bolts on the top of the hood area are already rusted but they don't even look used. And I have not removed the windshield yet.

HI Nate,
We're sorry to hear about your wind noise concern. It appears you have already opened a case with our teams, but if you need any assistance getting in contact with your case manager, please feel free to send us a PM.
Alex
Jeep Cares

 

[NC_Overland]

I have a wind noise in the right door that sounds like a window is cracked open. I have been chasing this leak since day one. I pointed it out at the dealership when/as i was buying it. Salesman and mechanic drove it and decided it is "characteristic of the vehicle", which is bullshit I drove two of them before I ordered this one and neither one makes the noise. Worth mentioning the left side is quiet as a church mouse as it should be.

I've remounted the freedom panels, lowered and inspected the windshield twice, no change.

Today as I was obsessing over it and inspecting the window and door seals yet again, I notice that on the passenger side (where the noise is) the little sail shaped piece of trim/molding at the front corner of the window kind of behind the mirror fits like shit.

So I took it off completely and put Gorilla Tape over the holes and went and drove it. Probably 80-85% better. So I stopped and cut the tape to allow re-installation of the trim and put it on. Immediately the noise was back although maybe diminished slightly.

This part is a poorly designed piece of crap, and looks like it is also out of spec. There is one central fastener and two guide pins. When it is installed by virtue of the centrally located spring clip fastener, the plastic piece of shit folds up like a taco funneling air off of the mirror mount into the mounting holes in the door (despite the soft/spongy/thin/inadequate and generally shitty weather stripping bonded to the back of it.

So having said that, I can't find a parts diagram showing this part, or the part number, and I don't even know what it is called, other than plastic piece of shit. I need the part number so I can order one or two.

I'm going to initially try to secure the thing with 3M two sided tape, but before I go to work on it I want to have a replacement original piece in hand. If 3M doesn't do it, the next step is screws.

I am 100% certain that if I try to get the dealer to fix this it will drive me into a dimension of frustration and general pissed off-edness that will rob all the joy out of my life and may result in my lapsing into a stream of profanity that would make a Mexican prison guard vomit.

So help me out, does anyone know what this part number is, or have a parts diagram with it shown, or even what it is called?

That's the offending part right there

I know this is an old thread, but thank you for posting this. My overland has had unacceptably bad highway wind noise since I bought it a few months ago. I can’t figure it out, but I did notice recently that its way worse from the passenger side door. I’ll look into this as a possible solution. Although, mine does sound like it’s worse from the top of the passenger side door, but chasing noises can be deceiving. I’ll look into this tomorrow and try trouble shooting it like you do. I’m not about to try readjusting a door on a brand new $55k vehicle. I just haven’t had a chance to take it in yet and haven’t made time because I’m 90% certain I’ll get the “It’s normal, it’s a Jeep thing” response and leave even more frustrated.

For the record my, JKU hard top was noticeably quieter.

 

[HBK01]

I don't mean to bump an older thread but I purchased my gladiator two weeks ago and I'm suffering from wind noise from the drivers side over 30mph. I started to painters tape all around including the panel next to the side mirror but this is coming from the lower windshield seal OR the cowl under the hood. I contacted Jeep customer service and they opened a case. Short of the dealership keeping my car and trying to find out what it is does anyone have any idea? See pics

A couple weird things I did notice. Those torx bolts on the top of the hood area are already rusted but they don't even look used. And I have not removed the windshield yet.

My windshield was actually leaking water where you have the tape at the bottom of windshield. They broke the windshield taking it out and replaced. The “technician” that replaced mine destroyed my windshield frame and tried to hide it from me. Not only that, the new windshield was off center and seal was hanging out. The dealer was just going to use body filler and paint the frame. I blew a gasket on them. Two weeks later I get the truck back. Still leaks and the paint doesn’t match the rest of the JT. From all the water leaking in, I’m having radio issues and the traction control pulses at ransom. Not to mention my misfire and transmission shifting issues. I’m trying to get FCA to buy this pos back. They don’t want to fix anything properly. Just keep putting bandaids on it. I’m giving FCA another two weeks to come up with a solution before hiring an attorney and going down the lemon law route. I hope you have better luck with yours

 

[canyonrat]

I wrestled with the "flag" component and its noise a bit today. "Crackle" is a good description of the symptom. First I put on the Silicone bead which was like a 80% solution to the noise. But clear Silicone was shiny and hard to get smooth and it looked odd. So I removed all that with Isopropyl before it cured and tried to remedy with weatherstrip. I have successfully fished the upper clip out of the door 3 times so far taking this apart... the fourth it got stuck in there someplace and with the door removed and shaken around I can't get it to even rattle anymore. Meh... BAM wholesale I have both sides parts ordered for another go. It is a Jeep thing, in a total BS kind of a way but F I should just throw some black sealant on around the whole triangle and call it good. Someone in Auburn Hills should be slapped upside the head.

 

[NC_Overland]

I know this is an old thread, but thank you for posting this. My overland has had unacceptably bad highway wind noise since I bought it a few months ago. I can’t figure it out, but I did notice recently that its way worse from the passenger side door. I’ll look into this as a possible solution. Although, mine does sound like it’s worse from the top of the passenger side door, but chasing noises can be deceiving. I’ll look into this tomorrow and try trouble shooting it like you do. I’m not about to try readjusting a door on a brand new $55k vehicle. I just haven’t had a chance to take it in yet and haven’t made time because I’m 90% certain I’ll get the “It’s normal, it’s a Jeep thing” response and leave even more frustrated.

For the record my, JKU hard top was noticeably quieter.

Which is exactly the response I got at the dealership... Its a Jeep thing, they're all like that. No they aren't! My JKU was a lot quieter and it was a 2008!

 

[canyonrat]

FWIW... I replaced both the “mirror flag appliqué” right and left. Search BAM Wholesale, enter your vehicle and keyword “flag”. The new
parts had incrementally thicker weatherstrip. The new parts work better to reduce noise than my attempts at Ace Hardware weatherstrip. I’d call it 80% improvement, well down in Jeep normalcy range. The parts are like 5 bucks each.

 

[Horde]

Mine flew off while I driving on the highway!! The dealer replaced it without issue. I covered it with electrical tape until they fixed it.

 

[Lex Low]

Thank you for this thread. I have 7k miles on mine and the noise started last week. Driving me nuts. Took off antenna, took of freedom top and made sure to put it back on with none of the weather stripping folded. Checked the mirror position. Stated thinking about taping gaps. Glad I checked here first. Now I'll address the piece of shit part as you nomenclatured it, and proceed from there. Thanks for all the leg work and followup.

 

[pacificoflyr]

I have this same issue with a brand new rubicon. My old gladiator was a soft top, and this new one has the 3 piece. Once it arrives in port on the other end of shipping I'll be taking it in.

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