Ecodiesel power derating as temps rise?

[Hondo1]

Looking at the coolant lines going into the oil cooler, one comes from the block under the exhaust manifolds and the other goes to the egr cooler. I used the line coming from the block. I tried to get my temp gun in there to get a solid delta T but it’s way to tight. Logic tells me supply shouldn’t pass through the egr cooler first but I’m not always a logical guy. ?

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[pmpmstrb]

Looking at the coolant lines going into the oil cooler, one comes from the block under the exhaust manifolds and the other goes to the egr cooler. I used the line coming from the block. I tried to get my temp gun in there to get a solid delta T but it’s way to tight. Logic tells me supply shouldn’t pass through the egr cooler first but I’m not always a logical guy. ?

Never mind. I'm an idiot. You tied into the coolant side not the oil side ?

 

[@californiajeeping]

Never mind. I'm an idiot. You tied into the coolant side not the oil side ?

Yes he tried cooling the coolant down going into the oil housing.

I wonder how much flow comes out of the 2 ports that hes using for cooling now?

 

[pmpmstrb]

M18 maybe?

.856 is 21.75mm and .055 is 1.4mm. If that's what he based your plug off of then chances are it's a M22x1.5. I'm going to order a set and see what happens. How much oil came out when you pulled the plugs out? Wanting to know how prepared I need to be.

 

[Rusty PW]

.856 is 21.75mm and .055 is 1.4mm. If that's what he based your plug off of then chances are it's a M22x1.5. I'm going to order a set and see what happens. How much oil came out when you pulled the plugs out? Wanting to know how prepared I need to be.

When you do it. Remove the oil filter so that it runs back into the pan. Think you won't have as much oil to deal with.

 

[Escape.idiocracy]

They are definitely in and out from the oil supply. I believe front one it out and back one is in. I didn't keep track after I decided to not run a temp switch. The oil temps are always higher than the temps available for those switches so the fan would always be in anyway. I just have it running off one of the aux switches and set it to remember on/off position after ignition. I can turn it off that way if I need to.

I think you could probably get more cooling out of it if you added a pump.

The cooler is the better Derale cooler with the 10" fan.

I'm not sure the cooler would fit in the same spot on a gladiator without a lift. I had to drop my emergency brake cables about 3 inches to clear the cooler.

@Samfamaz

what cooler did you use??
Curious if you used:
https://derale.com/product-footer/fluid-coolers/engine/remote-mount/15876-detail (40 row)

 

[Samfamaz]

@Samfamaz

what cooler did you use??
Curious if you used:
https://derale.com/product-footer/fluid-coolers/engine/remote-mount/15876-detail (40 row)

It was one we had around the shop for awhile. That looks like the same one.

 

[Samfamaz]

.856 is 21.75mm and .055 is 1.4mm. If that's what he based your plug off of then chances are it's a M22x1.5. I'm going to order a set and see what happens. How much oil came out when you pulled the plugs out? Wanting to know how prepared I need to be.

Thank you. That was it. That's exactly how my fitting guy figured it out.

 

[Escape.idiocracy]

It was one we had around the shop for awhile. That looks like the same one.

???

I’m looking to duplicate your setup ? shopping for a cooler and noticed they have quite the “row” difference.

40 row should give the least oil pressure reduction/ stress…. Next up I’m shopping for fittings. ? thanks

 

[Samfamaz]

When you do it. Remove the oil filter so that it runs back into the pan. Think you won't have

???

I’m looking to duplicate your setup ? shopping for a cooler and noticed they have quite the “row” difference.

40 row should give the least oil pressure reduction/ stress…. Next up I’m shopping for fittings. ? thanks

Nice, I don't think you'll be disappointed.

 

[pmpmstrb]

@Samfamaz

what cooler did you use??
Curious if you used:
https://derale.com/product-footer/fluid-coolers/engine/remote-mount/15876-detail (40 row)

I plan on using the 15876. Same as yours but -8an whereas yours is -12an

 

[Escape.idiocracy]

I plan on using the 15876. Same as yours but -8an whereas yours is -12an

Curious as to your reasoning for wanting to restrict the system to 1/2” line?

 

[CrazyCooter]

Curious as to your reasoning for wanting to restrict the system to 1/2” line?

I had the same thought....... 5/16 and 3/8 are trans cooler sizes?

 

[@californiajeeping]

I have posted this before:

http://www.setrabusa.com/products/fanpacks/fp160m22i/index.html

60 rows only 8.27" tall with 3 500+ CFM fans.....

 

[@californiajeeping]

I am curious if the plugs on the filter housing are full flow or a "bypass" setup. Does all oil flow through these? It cant because then with them in nothing would flow.

Adding a cooler into a open loop will only allow enough oil to flow through the cooler when pressure is high enough that the flow differential is lower to the cooler....correct?

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