New Mopar 2" inch lift coming out?

[Uparms]

My Sport is an 8/19 purchase 2020. Mopar Lift went on at 12K miles in Feb.2020. I am now at 61,500 miles.

1) When the 2 inch Mopar lift and JT came out, there were not may affordable, comparable lifts on the market in the price range ( beside a whole lot of budget boost stuff). Got mine for 1200.00 and what was out was still getting triaedl, tested and commented on so it made it hard to zero in on another brand.

2) At 1200..00 ( for me) it has not needed track bar relocations front or rear. Small 2.5 or even 2.25 lift did not affect axle centering.

3) When you do it yourself, 1200.00 for lift, 800.00 for Mopar 8.5 wide wheels from Quadratec (markdown) and real darn good budget price on BFG-AT 35s (900.00 installed) and I was all in for 2900.oo for an amazing lift , build and clearance/stance that has been reliable as heck and rides really great.

Conservative/practical prices for an uncomplicated install and long term reliability.

Can't blame any of the newcomers for being concerned about warranties. even if it is unfounded and unbacked by SOME dealerships. Shame prices went up. Glad there are other options on the market.

Still waiting for @ARB to get off their butts and get an Old Man Emu lift (or suspension as they insist on calling it) to market.

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[shrinkhead]

The 2-inch lift was a great upgrade over the stock RUBICON suspension especially on pavement riding and it’s true bolt on up to 37s with stock fenders. The shocks are still too bouncy though for rock crawling. While I’d say the Rockkrawler 3.5inch lift I have now with FOX performance reservoir shocks rides miles better on and off road it’s a completely different beast that requires some other adjustments and different price point. I’d say if you don’t wheel much and don’t want to go over 37s the 2-inch Mopar lift is excellent and sufficient while maintaining an OEM look

 

[jc1986]

My Sport is an 8/19 purchase 2020. Mopar Lift went on at 12K miles in Feb.2020. I am now at 61,500 miles.

1) When the 2 inch Mopar lift and JT came out, there were not may affordable, comparable lifts on the market in the price range ( beside a whole lot of budget boost stuff). Got mine for 1200.00 and what was out was still getting triaedl, tested and commented on so it made it hard to zero in on another brand.

2) At 1200..00 ( for me) it has not needed track bar relocations front or rear. Small 2.5 or even 2.25 lift did not affect axle centering.

3) When you do it yourself, 1200.00 for lift, 800.00 for Mopar 8.5 wide wheels from Quadratec (markdown) and real darn good budget price on BFG-AT 35s (900.00 installed) and I was all in for 2900.oo for an amazing lift , build and clearance/stance that has been reliable as heck and rides really great.

Conservative/practical prices for an uncomplicated install and long term reliability.

Can't blame any of the newcomers for being concerned about warranties. even if it is unfounded and unbacked by SOME dealerships. Shame prices went up. Glad there are other options on the market.

Still waiting for @ARB to get off their butts and get an Old Man Emu lift (or suspension as they insist on calling it) to market.

Has anyone reached out to arb about the old man emu suspension yet? I did a couple of years ago when I bought mine. Arb’s response was “in a couple of months.” This was in 2020. I went with a frankenlift with a mix of mopar eibach and Bilstein parts.

 

[Uparms]

Has anyone reached out to arb about the old man emu suspension yet? I did a couple of years ago when I bought mine. Arb’s response was “in a couple of months.” This was in 2020. I went with a frankenlift with a mix of mopar eibach and Bilstein parts.

I do 2 times a year. "Jeep Gladiator suspension is currently in development".

 

[chorky]

Just another perspective here, but what other lift is out there and even available that compares with the mopar 2”? Rough country? Teraflex? Those are bottom of the barrel stuff. The only one I know of is AEV which is a 2.5” and about the same price as MOPAR.

Of course there are better options like clayton and metalcloak. But thats not even comparable in price or lift height. Simple fact is MoPAR has some folks in the corner. I am by NO means defending their price, but for what it is I dont see why so many hate them for it. It wasnt that long ago that a so-so 2” lift for the TJ was about 2500 bucks…. I dont see any other manufacturers offering a comparable option other than AEV.
as for the ‘warranty’. Well imo there is value in that. Yes yes, we all know that if a locker blew up Jeep would have to prove it was the frankinlift that caused it to not cover the locker under warranty, or trans, or whatever. But I have seen lots and lots of people on here fighting like crazy to get a clear cut case taken care of under warranty when there is not even a chance that those failures were caused by, a aftermarket canopy…. My point is some of us are, for good or bad, at the total mercy of a dealer and the petty games that are played. And ‘just going to another dealer’ is not always an option. For me specifically. my closest dealer is a 3 hour round trip drive. Talk about a major pain in the butt for a simple oil change and dont even bring up the topic of having to leave it for a night or two…. Trying to find someone willing to drive 3 hours two times so I can get work done is like pooping bricks. The next closest dealer, 6 hours. Yep. 3 hours each way. No way in he!! Am I going to piss off my local dealer and risk having to drive 8 freaking hours for an oil change.

Alls I am saying is I would like to see all these folks trashing the MOPAR lift price to instead offer a viable solution. I sure havent found one….. And really could use a lift this spring.

 

[kevman65]

For the MOPAR warranty, go to your dealership and ask which tech is the "Certified, Professional Suspension Installer".

When you hear crickets, you know they don't have one and that's the ONLY way MOPAR will warranty the lift, if a "Certified, Professional Suspension Installer" does the install. It's in black and white everywhere they talk about it.

 

[Bjeepz]

Dealership behaviour has a massive range. The dealership that was told by Chrysler Fiat wtf ever they call themselves tech line to not touch my 2020 overland with a JKS 3.5 inch lift provided fantastic warranty work on my Frankenlifted 2015 JK. They even replaced my rear driveshaft due to me not setting pinion angle correctly causing issues. They said, get new upper adjustable arms to correct the angle and no problem on warranty. Same staff just a different scenario. I left very upset about the Gladiator, then the following yr showed up in my Mojave and they were like sweet rig.. bipolar a bit perhaps

 

[ShadowsPapa]

For the MOPAR warranty, go to your dealership and ask which tech is the "Certified, Professional Suspension Installer".

When you hear crickets, you know they don't have one and that's the ONLY way MOPAR will warranty the lift, if a "Certified, Professional Suspension Installer" does the install. It's in black and white everywhere they talk about it.

Sorry, any Dealership Shop can have a tech install these and they are covered.
There's nothing in the warranty about suspension installer.
Any AUTHORIZED FCA dealership. No other requirements. Parts and labor.
So walk into any Jeep, Ram or Fiat dealership or studio, have them install the MOPAR lift kit and it's fully covered parts and labor.
These are a 770 part -

So if a dealership installs them, they are covered.

If you go to any other shop and a professional tech (likely ASE certified) installs them, just says professional technician, nothing more -

Your dealership can have any tech install them and you get 24 months parts and labor.

Another shop that's not a dealership, if installed by a professional technician (nothing about suspension) - they are covered parts and up to $150 labor.

I had this told me directly by the dealership accessory guys here.

Part number begins with 770 ->

 

[Wheelin98TJ]

Just another perspective here, but what other lift is out there and even available that compares with the mopar 2”? Rough country? Teraflex? Those are bottom of the barrel stuff. The only one I know of is AEV which is a 2.5” and about the same price as MOPAR.

Of course there are better options like clayton and metalcloak. But thats not even comparable in price or lift height. Simple fact is MoPAR has some folks in the corner. I am by NO means defending their price, but for what it is I dont see why so many hate them for it. It wasnt that long ago that a so-so 2” lift for the TJ was about 2500 bucks…. I dont see any other manufacturers offering a comparable option other than AEV.
as for the ‘warranty’. Well imo there is value in that. Yes yes, we all know that if a locker blew up Jeep would have to prove it was the frankinlift that caused it to not cover the locker under warranty, or trans, or whatever. But I have seen lots and lots of people on here fighting like crazy to get a clear cut case taken care of under warranty when there is not even a chance that those failures were caused by, a aftermarket canopy…. My point is some of us are, for good or bad, at the total mercy of a dealer and the petty games that are played. And ‘just going to another dealer’ is not always an option. For me specifically. my closest dealer is a 3 hour round trip drive. Talk about a major pain in the butt for a simple oil change and dont even bring up the topic of having to leave it for a night or two…. Trying to find someone willing to drive 3 hours two times so I can get work done is like pooping bricks. The next closest dealer, 6 hours. Yep. 3 hours each way. No way in he!! Am I going to piss off my local dealer and risk having to drive 8 freaking hours for an oil change.

Alls I am saying is I would like to see all these folks trashing the MOPAR lift price to instead offer a viable solution. I sure havent found one….. And really could use a lift this spring.

The Clayton 2.5” Ride Right is pretty close in price. You get a lot more. But it is going to be a little taller.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

That's why I won't install a "lift kit" because I only want about 1" to 1.5" and nothing more.
I don't want to upset towing stability and ability and so on, nor do I need it over that tall for any tires I'd be running.

Sometimes that "a little taller" is why people don't go that direction. I've seen people here state as much "I don't want over 2" "

 

[steelponycowboy]

Agreed, 1480 is a good deal, but at 2k I can get springs, fox shocks, and a set of arms for hundreds less.

That's strange. Mine came with springs, Fox shocks and control arms for $1495 and dealer installed it for $500

 

[steelponycowboy]

For the MOPAR warranty, go to your dealership and ask which tech is the "Certified, Professional Suspension Installer".

When you hear crickets, you know they don't have one and that's the ONLY way MOPAR will warranty the lift, if a "Certified, Professional Suspension Installer" does the install. It's in black and white everywhere they talk about it.

Mopar will warranty it if it is installed by the dealer. They consider ANY tech to be a certified suspension installer. They use those words to deny warranty if installed by you or your local shop. Can we get real with the crazy comments here that have NO basis in fact.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

That's strange. Mine came with springs, Fox shocks and control arms for $1495 and dealer installed it for $500

You got a hell of a deal - dealer quoted me over $600 to swap springs and shocks and that was in 2020. That was just to put different springs and shocks under my 2020, not for a lift kit.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Mopar will warranty it if it is installed by the dealer. They consider ANY tech to be a certified suspension installer. They use those words to deny warranty if installed by you or your local shop. Can we get real with the crazy comments here that have NO basis in fact.

Right mostly - it's in black and white in the MOPAR warranty documents - freely available online or from any dealership for the asking.

They do allow for the parts warranty plus "up to $150 labor" if installed by a non-FCA shop techs, it doesn't say but I'd bet they need to be ASE certified as opposed to Youtube certified or Forum certified techs.
That's also spelled out.
If you do it yourself, it's parts only.

The dealership closest to me literally explained it when I bought my first JT and was asking about springs, a lift, gears, etc. - he had no problem saying "you'd be covered" and it was like he had the warranty memorized. Maybe he did - he was that store's accessories guy, that's all he did was MOPAR accessories for Jeep, Ram and so on.
Heck, he even suggested that instead of paying them to change the tire size after I had them put on my new General tires he could sell me a device (he was describing Tazer, only cheaper) to do it myself and save money.

 

[chorky]

Sometimes that "a little taller" is why people don't go that direction. I've seen people here state as much "I don't want over 2" "

this right here…. ? From having my TJ at 4” the last 8 years I realize that although in theory 4” on the JT would be nice, I am just not going to need that. I have already had the JT close to the max off road trails I will do, in reality, and even stock I barely scraped the factory trans skid. Plus it makes it more difficult to get in. 35’ is all the tire I will do mostly due to cost and, weight of having to lift one in a flat event. I would honestly love to do a full 4” with 37s or higher, but at my age, practicality is more important than looks. The OBS 7.3 I sold last year came factory with 31’s I think. I did a 4” lift on that and 35”s and it was a beast. It felt more like a 12” lift to be honest. And getting in it became so difficult I just couldnt anymore…. So as much as 4” on the JT calls me, I know that in 90% of daily life its is simply excessive and about looks At that point.

I did speak with clayton about their ride right. And although they advertise 2.5 someone there told me it pushes more like 3 or even a tad over. Thats cool and all but IMO it is not an appropriate depiction of the actual product. If something is advertised as 2.5“, I expect 2.5, or close to, not 3.2”…. Similiar to how AEV does it there should be different springs calculated to handle different weights. I also asked about this and they spoke about it more in terms of ‘overland vs off road’ vehicle weights. Well Im sorry but weights in those categories can be significantly different. There have been plenty of folks here saying their clayton 3.5 netted over 4” of lift. And thats cool but not as advertised. Im not knocking them at all they make great stuff. But to me it just doesnt feel super well thought out when weights cannot be given and thats frustrating. Especially when they are the only ones advertising tripple rate springs!! They also dont include shocks and for their midway ride right kit at 2,600 its going to be well into the 3K range with shocks. Granted you get significantly better joints and arms than MOPAR…

Metalcloak is the same in terms of no weighs for springs given. To me this is a big deal because I am actually calculating how much weight is in my rig for the full ‘always loaded’ buildout.

Now MOPAR also fails to talk weights but Dobinson springs could later be swapped out easy enough. But unlike others (to my knowledge) MOPAR also keeps the factory rake so that when loaded down your not dragging your rear end. Personally I love that little bit of rake. Seeing fully loaded rigs with the rear dragging looks and functions terrible.

IMO, AEV is the only comparable to MOPAR and in fact probably better. I have heard some metallurgy folks talk bad things about their forged brackets failing but I think that is pretty rare. However one could always use the MOPAR lowers instead and only use the AEV track bar brackets. Their springs are set to discuss weighs which is excellent in order to aid folks to more appropriately chose options based on function instead of looks by height. They also state they take into account standard aftermarket options such as winch, bumpers, etc. This is important to me because I have read plenty of reports of folks netting different heights up front depending of winch or no winch. Now this is obvious but to have it stated is helpful instead of wondering if a 3.5 lift will stay at 3.5 with a winch or if it will be more like 3. Just all things I think are important and not stated well by other companies.


All this to say that still only the MOPAR lift is warrantied. Especially for clayton and metalcloak, going over 2” really means a new drive shaft and if not its taking a chance. I know some here have awesome folks who warrantied a driveshaft caused by a bad lift but thats a risk I dont want to take considering it could result in a busted transfer case Which would be expensive. So. Warranty still is valid especially for me since mine is extended to 8 years/ 125K miles

I also have no personal experience with these lifts but multiple reports of these lifts seem to be fairly consistent.

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