Yeah, I looked at one of those and they were asking for way too much. I called anyway and they wouldn’t budge on the price. I laughed at them and moved on.
Wow that is quite a trip! Glad to hear that it went so well. I have used snow tires for the last 8 years and they make such a difference, can't imagine what they would be like with 4wd. I will have to look into the Selec-Trac more and what it would take to get that option. What is the advantage of Selec-Trac vs just running 4H if the roads are getting bad? Is it to handle the random unexpected slick spot? Does the Max-Tow package hurt your gas mileage?
My wife uses them all the time in the trails to grab onto when the Jeep is at precarious angles.
Yes. But so is traction control. I found that with good tires I can run tool drive in winter. But when I had the mud terrains I would need four wheel drive or often then with the AT3s.
Only compared to the 3.73 years in the sport or willys.
Now I'm reflecting on how often I used full-time (the extra Selec-Trac mode) vs. part-time 4wd on that Montana trip. Full-time mode keeps the front axle 'connected' and the front driveshaft spinning, much like a JK in 2wd mode. Then, if rear wheel slipping is sensed, an electric actuator (clutch?) in the transfer case quickly engages the front drive. Most of the trip was in 4wd; we honestly didn't see dry roads until we hit MT. But I'd say the majority of the time I was in part-time mode when on completely snow-covered roads. I used full-time mode when the road was transitioning from snowy to wet/dry, and also I found there to be less understeer in full-time when making turns on icy roads, so I would flick the lever over to full-time to make those type of turns. I've always had part-time transfer cases (and always been happy with them), but when I saw Selec-trac as an option on the JT, I decided to try. My daughter's '10 Liberty has the same/similar transfer case, and it hasn't had any problems. I also wanted to experience the CV joints in the front axle, since I've gotten tired of replacing front axle u-joints in the different 4x4s I've owned. The dirt road I live on gets calcium chloride in the summer, and the paved roads get salt in the winter. Not a good environment for u-joints. I know opinions vary on CV joints. Regarding max-tow mileage, I'm not sure. This is my first JT. I average 19 in the winter, 21 in the summer with 33" load range E tires. That MT trip, I averaged about 17-18, with some tanks at 13mpg, others at 20mpg. Some brutal conditions on that trip, though. I know from my JK that the soft top is probably a little worse for mileage on the highway. I shift manually once I get to 45mph or so, which seems to be good for at least 1 mpg. Not sure if the Max-Tow gets a more aggressive shift schedule, but it's often in 6-7th when I'd be in 8th..
From being on here, I knew more going into buying mine than the salesman did.
Being in Midwest Wisconny I went with the Hardtop, and cold weather package. Worth it, well worth it. -20°F worth it . Bundled with Popular equipment it was a little cheaper. Get hitch, hardtop, and… it’s on sticker lol. Not sure for 23’. I almost pulled trigger on a Willys Diesel. After realizing I didn’t need; the rock rails, the 255 optioned black wheels, and a black grill, I saved money on a Sport. The Trac Lok rear end came with diesel so Willy’s or not I got that. No Selec Trac, no biggie. I put wheels, tires, side steps, and a Mopar matte grill on for less than the factory Willys option. Bedliner was horse a piece, $500 Mopar, $500 after market. For my 22’ when I opted for the cold weather it also gave me the 1st upgraded tech package, keyless entry proxy, and better gauge cluster. No 8” Uconnect display, which would have gotten me rear USB ports. Kids are fine without it in back. No alpine woofer. Wanted to get the best bang for payment. Here is my sticker.
