Jeep to stop stocking popular gas models in Delaware ( no politics please)

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Jeep to stop stocking popular gas models in Delaware

Exclusive: Jeep to stop stocking popular gas models in Delaware (delawarebusinesstimes.com)

"" CEO of Lakeshore Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM of Seaford and managing partner of Willis Ford in Smyrna, said he received notification last week from the brand’s parent company, Stellantis, that he could not receive regular shipments of two popular Jeep gasoline-powered models to stock on his lot “because we are considered a ‘California state.’”

“People will still be able to direct order these gas-powered models, but that could take weeks before they are delivered,” Viswanathan noted.

The prohibited gas-powered Jeeps cited in the notification are the Wrangler four-door Sport, Sahara and Rubicon and the Wrangler two-door Sport and Rubicon. According to the letter, the Jeep Wrangler 4XE and the Jeep Grand Cherokee 4XE, both electric models, will be available to keep in stock in the First State"".

"" Delaware is not alone in this new stocking prohibition for gas vehicles, as California, New York, Massachusetts, Vermont, Maine, Pennsylvania, Connecticut, Rhode Island, Washington, Oregon, New Jersey, Maryland, and Colorado are also included due to their adoption of the ZEV standards."".

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[Hootbro]

You say no politics but it is all politically driven agenda.

This state the last 2-3 years really has gotten into my personal business and now this crap comes along.

2035 will be about in the range I am looking to retire and it probably will not be here in Delaware.

They better get to hopping then on recharge stations as they suck currently on the amount they have now unless you own a Tesla.

 

[Artsifrtsi]

... but, the 4xe is NOT a ZEV... They are a PHEVand still rely on gas power for any traversing past ~20 miles...

 

[Spur]

Go woke, Go BROKE

 

[sharpsicle]

... but, the 4xe is NOT a ZEV... They are a PHEVand still rely on gas power for any traversing past ~20 miles...

I don't think anyone is claiming otherwise. The regulations they're referencing don't read that way, they are incremental not absolute.

 

[chorky]

What is this regulation you speak of? Im generally curious! Is there some state or federal statue that is regulating and governing what vehicle types can be sold in what states? That seems pretty excessive if so…..

the interesting thing here is being a vet and civilian gov employee we (the gov) get a free pass on all of this. currently my area is working to get more new trucks because many of our existing ones are past their ‘retirement’ mileage. Thats a whole mess in itself. But everything we are ‘allowed’ to order is specifically and only a gasoline or diesel engine. To my knowledge we are not even allowed or able to order any sort of battery powered vehicle. Kinda interesting.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

They better get to hopping then on recharge stations as they suck currently on the amount they have now unless you own a Tesla.

This is how your statement would read if I were to comment about Iowa -

>>They better get to hopping then on recharge stations as they suck currently on the amount they have now no matter what EV you own.<<

There aren't any around here except in the expensive high-dollar Waukee and West Des Moines areas. There's 1 or 2 around Altoona - but not close to any place you'd do business and park for a while.
This is why I ended up getting a level II for our 4xe - no place but home to charge it.



This is for my wife's 4xe from the "FillUp" app on my phone -

She drove 469 miles, used 11 gallons of gas.
To charge 14.73 kWh costs $1.18
Each charge she gets anywhere from 21 to 26 miles.
So she can drive roughly, maybe average if you want to call it that, 24 miles for a buck 18.

For her, the 4xe is simply ideal.
NOT for everyone for sure!! Don't get me wrong - it just won't do well for some people.

Can't a person cross state lines to buy? Heck, when I was looking for a purple Jeep for my wife, I searched the entire country and these days - there's often "free delivery" included. I could have gotten one from IL (they didn't have exactly what she wanted) and they'd have delivered it.
This is sure going to help dealerships in other states - at least that's my gut feeling (could be wrong)

 

[ShadowsPapa]

... but, the 4xe is NOT a ZEV... They are a PHEVand still rely on gas power for any traversing past ~20 miles...

But for my wife - it took over a month before she needed even 11 gallons of gas. Over 40 mpg. So for some people, especially in small states where they do mostly short drives, the 4xe can operate almost as a pure EV.
My wife goes to town and back and that engine never even fires. for her, it's an EV most of the time.

That type of driving is abuse to an ICE - I consider it engine abuse to drive 10-12 miles, then 10-12 miles back. I'd never buy a used gas powered vehicle that was driven that way. But - it's ideal for a 4xe.
The 4xe is bad for long drives, though. We'll never again take it on a long multi-state trip.

 

[Artsifrtsi]

I don't think anyone is claiming otherwise. The regulations they're referencing don't read that way, they are incremental not absolute.

"" Delaware is not alone in this new stocking prohibition for gas vehicles, as California, New York, Massachusetts, Vermont, Maine, Pennsylvania, Connecticut, Rhode Island, Washington, Oregon, New Jersey, Maryland, and Colorado are also included due to their adoption of the ZEV standards."".

They are claiming this ban is due to the ZEV standards.

 

[ShrimpHappens]

They better get to hopping then on recharge stations as they suck currently on the amount they have now unless you own a Tesla.

Yes, the non-Tesla EV charging system is horrible. If you can find one, there's a decent chance it won't be working. There's plenty of coverage about it online, but obviously no one selling EV's wants to talk about it. I've seen it once in person: in front of an Embassy Suites, the Tesla charger was fully operational and the generic one was not.

Go woke, Go BROKE

1. How do you define "woke?"
2. Can you name one company that has "gone woke" and "gone broke?"

 

[ShadowsPapa]

They are claiming this ban is due to the ZEV standards.

You may be reading the standards incorrectly. It's not about absolute ZERO right now. It's a complex formula and based on percentages and so on.

 

[SPED1]

Glad I have my 2020. Will NOT buy an electric vehicle. My money my choice!

 

[Rockabillyroy]

Looks like you can still order them for delivery. Gonna be tough for those impulse buyers. First world problems. Haha.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

1. How do you define "woke?"
2. Can you name one company that has gone broke from adopting whatever you think "woke" is?

I'd rather we didn't go there - because even the pols can't properly define it. It's a moving target and meant one thing to some groups 5 years ago, something different to other groups today.
For me, the term is abused, mis-used and goes too far extreme. It's polarizing - and shouldn't be.
You can be nice, kind and treat others equally without going over the top.
I was never sleeping. My parents dun a good job.
Pushing something on others always causes the others to get defensive - no matter how good or bad the thing being pushed is. Hackles are raised and people put up walls. Pushing and forcing never works.

How about back to what that ZEV standards thing REALLY says......... as it's being looked at as if it means "TOTAL EV, period" and that's not it - not yet.

 

[chorky]

But for my wife - it took over a month before she needed even 11 gallons of gas. Over 40 mpg. So for some people, especially in small states where they do mostly short drives, the 4xe can operate almost as a pure EV.
My wife goes to town and back and that engine never even fires. for her, it's an EV most of the time.

That type of driving is abuse to an ICE - I consider it engine abuse to drive 10-12 miles, then 10-12 miles back. I'd never buy a used gas powered vehicle that was driven that way. But - it's ideal for a 4xe.
The 4xe is bad for long drives, though. We'll never again take it on a long multi-state trip.

remind me what your experience was on that florida trip you two took? Cant remember. Im curious how you think it would do with mostly 2 mile drivesduring the week with 65-80 mile each way drives once a week

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