Buyer's remorse

[ChrisNLA]

It's a great idea, but it's an idea shared with millions of other people. The true reality is, unless a person is surounded by good friends, family and a community all with the same intention and destination, and capability/competency, this is a theory that really isn't valid. our lives these days are SO complicated by our own doing that we have to rely on each other. If a person truly wanted to be able to be self sustaining and separate from the 'world' they would find a lifestyle similar to the Amish. The whole 'self reliance' thing is just a poofy cloud that doesn't really exist. If you truly dig into it, you are in fact completely reliant on others. Sure, there may be a time a person can be 'self reliant' for a week long camping trip. But are you really self reliant? That vehicle you purchased, and all the components of, required thousands of people for it to get into your hands. That pocket knife required hundreds of people, even the pencil is made at a manufacturing plant probably requiring hundreds from plan operators, to miners for raw material, to truck drivers for deliver, to oil for operation of equipment, etc... At the end of the day, true self reliance doesn't exist. Even the Native Americans, when living without any modern convenience, had to live in a tribe just to survive. Many of the old Mountain Man's would talk during their roundup that living in the wild alone was often terrible, and many of them were malnourished. That's not to say having a capable vehicle to get through some situations is not a valid thing. I find it critical to have 4x4 in every vehicle I own. Never know when there will be a natural disaster that will make paved roads into hard core crawling. And having a 4x4 at least gives you a better chance to get home or somewhere safe than a 2wd Honda. But I think this 'self reliance' fad needs to be reeled in some. Even third world countries where people have darn simple lives rely on one another to survive longer than a few years.

They wasn't lying when they said 'it takes a village'. Granted that proverb was focused on the raising of children, but the older I get I feel it applies to life in general.

My girlfriend broke her ankle in a car wreck (and totaled her car) a few weeks ago and we have been utilizing folks from all over her family to help her get groceries, get the kids to school, get to doctors appointments, etc. when I am at work or otherwise can't get to something. At least until she can walk better.

I don't have such a support group in my side of the family. I am an only child and dad is long gone. The rest of the family is spread across the country. Mom depends on me, I depend on me. It's a rough existence when you know you are the long pole in the tent.

Anyway with so much support on her side of the family and the sort of friends group we have now - our discussions became less about self reliance or bugging out, and more about coming together and standing our ground.

Wildly off topic though...

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[Freems]

ok…the team have all been supportive of your remorse and your decision to buy a JT, and I am with all of them on this. The remorse thing…I’ve got a brother in-law that literally barfs every time when he spends on big cost items. First time I saw it in person, I laughed at him for weeks for not being able to control himself. Life is too short for hand wringing, drive JT a lot and don’t look back, I promise you, you’ve made a great choice. If you’re still barfing after a couple of months, go buy some boring jelly bean shaped used suv and live the rest of your life with a serious set of regrets. (BTW: This is an old guy talking to you) Live, don’t just exist.

 

[chorky]

They wasn't lying when they said 'it takes a village'. Granted that proverb was focused on the raising of children, but the older I get I feel it applies to life in general.

My girlfriend broke her ankle in a car wreck (and totaled her car) a few weeks ago and we have been utilizing folks from all over her family to help her get groceries, get the kids to school, get to doctors appointments, etc. when I am at work or otherwise can't get to something. At least until she can walk better.

I don't have such a support group in my side of the family. I am an only child and dad is long gone. The rest of the family is spread across the country. Mom depends on me, I depend on me. It's a rough existence when you know you are the long pole in the tent.

Anyway with so much support on her side of the family and the sort of friends group we have now - our discussions became less about self reliance or bugging out, and more about coming together and standing our ground.

Wildly off topic though...

Yeah I feel you on that. I have zero family help, except dad who is aging and will soon need my help lol. But I have no wife, girlfriend, no kids, and only some extended second cousins 2500 miles away - maybe my retirement plan will be moving to Florida.... But it is definitely a real problem the older you get. I think of my stepmoms mom who was rushed to the hospital a few days ago. If she didn't have her kids near by or someone to call on, she probably would have died. That's probably gonna be me with no family. And with how society is currently, there is much more of the 'me' ideals than 'community' ideals. Even where I live now, with good neighbors, and a good 'community' it takes 2-4 days of me not coming out of the house (either body issues or just work) before someone sends me a txt saying "hey you ok?" If I had a serious complication, 4 days would probably be too late. And with how society is currently going, it's not gonna get better unfortunately. When I had both my brain surgeries, I literally had to rely totally on my dad, in his retirement years. Otherwise I probably would have died from the tumor. No medical facility will do procedures anymore without a 'caretaker' and most people these days are just not willing to do what it takes, which is a lot of work, to be a 'caretaker' for a friend or neighbor, and with the cost of living, not many people can pay for a home care nurse or something of the like. Definitely a frightening future for people aging with problems and nobody to rely on. So there is certainly an important aspect to being able to be as self sufficient as possible. So I don't disregard that at all, but what I did mean is this fantasy of being totally self sufficient for life, is just not a thing at all. Even the 'overlander' world of 'self sufficiency' should be more like 'an extended timeline of no assistance', because from the get go you are 100% reliant on others to build that 'overland' Jeep and all the accessories and components, unless a person were to totally and completely build everything themselves. Just not a thing.

 

[Wheelin98TJ]

Thats kinda crazy! $160/month. What are your deductibles?
I have State Farm here in So Cal which is off road haven and high rate of jeeps stolen(to go across the border) and mine went down a couple bucks. I pay $509 for 6 months. But then again, the wifes 2020 2dr sport JL went up.

OP is in a no fault state.

I'm also in a no fault state. I was paying exactly double what you pay. I recently switched and got it down to a little over $1,500/yr.

 

[magesh]

Immigrated 25 years ago and changed over 20 vehicles. Every single time, I have buyers remorse, no matter how much I research (sometimes well over 3+ months) or an impulse buy (love the look/color). Money was difficult in the early days, but love(d) cars, driving, exploring.

You are not alone going thru this phase. I can bet, a good 90% of the population across here, other car groups in the US/World, go thru' it. A small inkling of "what if", "If I waited for an extra day(s)", "I forgot to factor that in", "its too big/small for my needs/wants", etc is always there AND will be there ... So my opinion: Ignore it.

You *have* the vehicle now. Enjoy it. Put the vehicle for the purpose you bought it for. Pavement princess. Sure. Off road. Sure. Whatever you enjoy/thrive/feel happiness doing, DO IT. Its there in your driveway. So why not make good use of it.

The only way it will disappear is if you sell it (or god forbid it is stolen). If you sell it, you will have remorse losing money. So, go out there, to the mall or the deep forests, and enjoy it. Sell it, when it bores you, especially if $ is a non-issue.

Insurance is what it is. Search around. Raise your deductible, add other assets to this to lower the premiums, etc ... You know the drill. You are a smart guy & this is not your first rodeo.

Looks like you are in WA. I reside off Camas, WA. If you are close by, let's meet up and get the Jeeps out for a drive. We live in a beautiful state. Why waste it?

Cheers.
P.S: I'm in my mid 50s, 'retired' after 30+ years in the IT sector.

 

[K enny]

My buyers remorse is from having to pay sales tax when I register it this week.

 

[MSgt4246]

Pretty sure I can't take any of my money with me when I finally kick the bucket. Lord knows the pharaohs tried and that didn't really work out. Life is short so enjoy the benefits from what I am sure was a long life of work and sacrifice. Is my Gladiator expensive? Hell yeah!! Am I worth it? Ohhh, hell yeah!! I just park that baby next to the ole Harley and "buyers remorse" myself to ecstasy. LOL

 

[Rahkmalla]

I have the opposite of buyer's remorse. I'm still regretting not doing a 2" AEV spacer with a regear to 5.13 and 37s and swapping in a 5.7.

It's called saver's remorse. All this cash just sitting in a bank account doing what? earning 5.25%? garbage... Why can't I have the only manual 5.7 gladiator in the world (probably)? PRIORITIES PEOPLE. Where the fuck did mine go?

 

[Minty JL]

Only remorse I have is not buying sooner to get a better APR...........BUT a better APR on my new house was more important

 

[rr11]

I have more sellers remorse. I have a number of vehicles I regret selling over the years. Did I pay too much for my Gladiator, Hell yes, do I regret buying it not at all. All I have to do is drive it on the beach and watch a sunset. When I bought it I told my son that I had lost my mind. He said enjoy the Jeep.

 

[Phishs]

Have you priced out other insurance companies? May be able to save money with a different one.

 

[Minty JL]

Have you priced out other insurance companies? May be able to save money with a different one.

The insurance companies are all feeding off each other at this point.......maybe save $10 for every 6 months

 

[High Alextude]

I have had buyers remorse on parts. With my JK’s, I bought parts just to buy parts. I did not use them the way they were meant to be used. Or went cheap on a lift. Bought stupid cosmetic stuff. Could’ve saved thousands doing it the right way the first time.

I do not regret any Jeep I have ever bought, even with losing money on some trade ins. I have had adventures in all of them. They are one of the only vehicles that puts a smile on my face just by looking at it. It is the best love, hate relationship you‘ll ever have as long as you drive the hell out of it.

 

[Wheelin98TJ]

The insurance companies are all feeding off each other at this point.......maybe save $10 for every 6 months

I just saved $500/yr on the Gladiator and $150/yr on an F150 by changing carriers.

 

[Chunky White]

Anybody been through it? I'm feeling it the last couple of days. While I think I got a good price, it's a lot of money. I felt this once before after buying a brand new 2012 Ram Laramie 3500. I ended up selling it off after two years and 45,000 miles, losing $5k + tt&l, which wasn't too bad for the miles driven.

It's been made worse by the fact that Geico jacked my insurance on the Gladiator up $40 per month only 6 weeks into ownership. Sure, $40 might seem like pocket change, but that's after large increases the past two years, too. I just can't justify spending $160 per month for car insurance on this thing at my age. I have no tickets, no claims, etc.

I'm so unsure about things now that I actually checked blue book to see what the private party value is. It may seem insane, but with only a bit over 1,000 miles I have seriously cold feet. Not sure why I am out on the ledge right now.

My insurance cost the same and the value is dropping more rapidly than I like. I grew up around the car business and understand all of it but really feel like the Gladiator lost its value quicker than anything I have owned before.

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