2025 Gladiator towing

[JTGuy]

It's great that they are holding up in the first year or 2. I am sure the added power off road is great. But that electric system adds a ton of complicated parts that won't be cheap for someone down the road.

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[ygrignon]

Curious if/how that will work with a manual. If not, no thanks.

The tow rating of manual Gladiators makes them irrelevant for that use.

 

[Rusty PW]

This was in my Youtube feed.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

This was in my Youtube feed.

Listen closely - the tow numbers are "expected", etc. - they don't know.
There's a lot more to it than just the engine. They'll have to really beef things up with the frame and chassis to handle the added tongue weights and so on.

So how did they get this "insider information" that no one else, not even dealers, have yet?

 

[Rusty PW]

Listen closely - the tow numbers are "expected", etc. - they don't know.
There's a lot more to it than just the engine. They'll have to really beef things up with the frame and chassis to handle the added tongue weights and so on.

So how did they get this "insider information" that no one else, not even dealers, have yet?

AI Vaporware.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

AI Vaporware.

The numbers they are giving for MPG and MPGe suck.
I mean - I'll take the 3.6 back if it means that's as good as the mileage for a 2025 is going to do.
The 4xe Wrangler already has horrible MPG numbers when driving it as a hybrid on long trips - like a V8 Wrangler. Don't get one for gas mileage on a long trip.
So towing with a 2025 Gladiator will be quite expensive.
Sorry, let me keep the 3.6 - if that's how bad it's going to be, I'll stick with what I have.
It tows fine.
I was hoping for some better MPG - or MPGe for the 4xe.
It would be cheaper to operate with a hemi in it.

I hope that video is pure vaporware.
it will make those insisting on "more power!" happy - but not the rest.

 

[Rusty PW]

The numbers they are giving for MPG and MPGe suck.
I mean - I'll take the 3.6 back if it means that's as good as the mileage for a 2025 is going to do.
The 4xe Wrangler already has horrible MPG numbers when driving it as a hybrid on long trips - like a V8 Wrangler. Don't get one for gas mileage on a long trip.
So towing with a 2025 Gladiator will be quite expensive.
Sorry, let me keep the 3.6 - if that's how bad it's going to be, I'll stick with what I have.
It tows fine.
I was hoping for some better MPG - or MPGe for the 4xe.
It would be cheaper to operate with a hemi in it.

I hope that video is pure vaporware.
it will make those insisting on "more power!" happy - but not the rest.

You know it's a trade off. Power vs MPG. More power, less mpg. More mpg, less power.

 

[asrricklin]

Towing 7k with a truck this size is pushing it. There's no way you'd want to tow 10k. Even with a half ton, that's pushing it. If you're regularly towing 8k+ I'd personally recommend moving to a 3/4 ton truck. It's built for it.

They would have to totally rework everything from the frame to the axles and the suspension to get the gvwr higher to have the ability for higher payload on the gladiator to support more towing. As it is, if you have any extra people or gear on most trims of gladiator you're maxing out the payload well before maxing out the towing capacity.

 

[Mr._Bill]

I have not wasted my time watching the video. I'm sure it's a bunch of crap. I'm going to predict the 2025 Gladiator will be essentially unchanged with the same numbers and towing capacity. The 4xe version will have the battery taking up part of the bed, and have a 600 pound payload capacity. And, no, there will be no Hurricane engine option.

 

[redriderjf87]

It won't work with a manual. At all. None of the new power options 4ex, hurricane will ever be manual. Hell I would be shocked if the turbo 4banger will ever be manual.

No doubt Jeep won't put the effort in for it.

The straight 6 definitely could work if they had strong enough components available.

 

[redriderjf87]

The tow rating of manual Gladiators makes them irrelevant for that use.

Not quite - there are still a lot of things you can tow. Jeep did half-ass it though.

 

[Texops]

Since we are just dreaming my 1st Jeep CJ-7 had the 258 6 i loved the torque and light weight of that Jeep. I wish they could put a dumbed down version Hurricane 6 non turbo with maybe 300 to 350 Hp to be a work horse Gladiator engine. But these engines are engineered for turbos like the new Diesel’s and they proved mostly reliable. But i do like a Les complex engine.

 

[MPMB]

Well, one day, just for sh*ts and giggles, I priced out a Chevy Colorado with that 2.7 L TurboMax engine and it said the silly thing has like a 7.7K lb towing capacity and was like $5-6K less than our Gladiators.

So, if Chebby can do it with a 4 cyl., then why can't Jeep do it with a 3.0L I-6 across the board and maybe even higher with the MaxTow?

The Colorado (version 2) has always had a 7700# towing with the diesel. The Colorado's curb weight is also significantly lower than a JT. The ZR2 gives up about 200# compared to a JTR. Other Colorado trims are in the 4100-4400# range.

Additionally, the lower trims are the ones with higher ratings, just like the JT Sport MaxTow). A ZR2 is only rated for 6000#, a 1000# less than the comparable JTR.

https://www.chevrolet.com/content/d...ado/pdfs/2024-Colorado_TraileringChart_v3.pdf

 

[MPMB]

Towing 7k with a truck this size is pushing it. There's no way you'd want to tow 10k. Even with a half ton, that's pushing it. If you're regularly towing 8k+ I'd personally recommend moving to a 3/4 ton truck. It's built for it.

They would have to totally rework everything from the frame to the axles and the suspension to get the gvwr higher to have the ability for higher payload on the gladiator to support more towing. As it is, if you have any extra people or gear on most trims of gladiator you're maxing out the payload well before maxing out the towing capacity.

Increasing the towing capacity through a redesign of the fundamental structure of the truck would also bump it up to the official 1/2 ton full-size class, and out of the mid-size class. It'd be bad marketing for this to happen, as the JT can't compare to any full size unless you're looking at being able to be topless and doorless.

The JT (and Colorado ZR2) is already pushing the mid-size class limits as it is, with the max weight hitting 6250#. Class 1 is <6000#. Class 2a/2b is 6000-10000#.

 

[Pilsner]

$90k Gladiators incoming...

Lol. No shit right? I'll be in the market for a hemi swap in 50k miles. I have a feeling I want to rebuild and not rebuy.

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