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I figured I would post a comment about this, for anyone else who's in the same boat I was a few weeks back. It seemed like there were varying results regarding the axle position after installing the Mopar 2" lift. Some people reported the axle being visibly off center (I'm imagining 2" or more favoring the driver side). Some people reported driving 5k miles after the lift with no issues at all. It seemed like the consensus was "Try the install and see what happens" with regards to whether an adjustable track bar would be needed to compensate for the additional suspension height. NOTE: I don't have any meaningful pictures available - I was renting bay space and was trying to maximize time efficiency. Sorry.

I noticed during the install that the axle was certainly off-center (as expected), but not terribly. The new control arms, shocks, and sway bars fit in their mounting brackets but there was an obvious difference in angle between the joints (on the part) and the mounting points on the frame. I didn't torque the control arms or track bar down until the Jeep was resting on the tires again (and wow...that was a knuckle buster). After the final torque I could tell the driver side tire was ever so slightly extended past the fender, while the passenger side was equal with the fender edge. The offset was visible, but not more than .5" - if you weren't looking, you wouldn't see it.

Driving it home, my steering wheel was off about 5 minutes too slow (counter clockwise). Prior to the lift it was perfectly centered. I did not feel like the vehicle had a pull in either direction. After about 15 minutes of driving, my Electronic Stability Control warning light came on - I did not see anyone else report that after the lift. I'm hoping/assuming the vehicle is complaining about the axle offset (and not something else I may have screwed up). I ordered an adjustable track bar (decided to try the Yeti XD), and after I get that on I plan on taking it in for an alignment.

For my two cents, after doing this install, I can't see how it would be physically possible to NOT have incorrect geometry without installing an adjustable track bar. Unless you don't plan on stressing the suspension at all (ie, there are no potholes/speed bumps in your favorite parking lot), I would highly recommend purchasing the adjustable track bar of your choice prior to beginning the suspension swap. I imagine it will make it easier to fit the new components into the mounting brackets. If you're gonna wheel, I'd consider it a given that you will need the new track bar. Again, my 2 cents...

Also, If you are considering the particular lift, BAM Wholesale is offering the Mopar 2" w/Bilstein for the lowest price BY FAR - it was just under $1600 (late June 2024) if I remember correctly. It shipped immediately, and arrived in perfect condition. I've never used them before, but they're on my list of vendors to check when pricing major purchases now. In the same vein, had a pretty bad experience with Quadratec on this same item. I see other threads dedicated to the decline in their service so I won't belabor the point here.

I will circle back & update after the track bar install & alignment - I'll see if the track bar clears the warning code after some driving, and/or if my mechanic finds any major issues during the alignment. Lastly.... I was expecting to be slightly pleased with the appearance of the Jeep - and I am MUCH more than that. I've been too sore to climb around and measure the difference, but this is much better than I'd hoped for. I'm a rock crawler, and I wasn't sure if this lift would make enough difference to justify the cost/effort of install...the look of it alone is almost worth it, the ride is VERY stable (nothing over @55 mph yet)...I can't wait to re-wheel some trails to test the difference.
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Excellent tip - thank you. I'll give that a shot over lunch break (cause I'm working hard right now, not hanging out in the Jeep forum). I'll update with results. Although if that warning light goes away I may get some heat for dropping $ on a unnecessary part... :)
 

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Mine did the same after just a 1.5 spacer on the front. Warning came on. It’s no big deal, and like what was said above, very easy to re-centre. Loosen a couple clamps, and either turn by hand, or use a pair of slip joint pliers to turn it. I took a couple tries going down the highway to where I was happy with the centering.
 
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That was a very straight forward adjustment; sitting in the driveway it looks fine (and I have a high degree of confidence that I'll be able to tweak it if/as needed after some drive time). I also discovered a 24mm wrench - borrowed from the garage I was in - sitting on one of the lower control arm bolts. Glad I found it before it fell off!

But while I'm here I'll ask you guys' opinions - the shock boots on the rear Bilsteins look terrible - they droop over bottom joint. They look like they may get caught/torn by rocks, debris, etc. and it sounds like some people just rip off the boot anyway. I only care about .05% what they actually look like, but functionally am I better off just taking the boot off? Should I keep an eye on it and remove if it gets torn? What's better for the shock do you think?
 

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I just centered my steering wheel after a 2inch lift. It's super easy. A ratcheting 15mm box end wrench is all you really need.

Unlike the older jeeps(like my TJ) your tie rod and drag link aren't connected. So your toe at least is not effected by the lift. Just your steering wheel alignment and possibly tracking down the road

Here's the absolute shortest video I found


Fwiw I can't really see an offset of the axel with this lift. My fingers are wider than my wheels so maybe that helps.
 

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Adjustable Track bars front and rear after a 2 inch lift as it will pull the front about 3/4 inch to the driver side and the rear the same to the passenger side. The toe in will not change but you will loose caster unless you do different front lower CA's . You want around 6 deg caster. I did a lot of thought in my choice of mods and I think I have it dialed in now.
 
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I've finished dialing in the steering adjustment; my warning light turned itself off, and everything seems just fine. The Mopar kit does include front lower control arms...honestly I'm a little surprised it didn't include another track bar. The angle on the arms, sway bars, and shock mounts is obviously affected by the axle displacement - I'm comfortable driving on it until my track bar show up, but I wouldn't want to put this up against trail articulation stress.

I hadn't considered doing the rear track bar; at least using the shock/sway mounts as an indicator of displacement, I did not SEE any misalignment. Your right, it should pull (at least some amount) to the passenger side - when I measure & setup the front axle I'll at least measure the rear just to be sure. All the research I did for the Mopar lift, the only people who swapped the rear track bar did so to accomodate a 37" spare. You've inspired me to at least double check it...

So, new track bar when it gets here, and then I can check/torque the mounts again. Thanks again for the tip about the steering recenter, and the other feedback!
 

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The issue you havce with the stability control light is caused by the steering wheel being off center, not the axle. On a dead level surface with the wheels straight ahead adjust the drag link until the steering wheel spokes afre as close to horizontal as possible. You wont see the light again in those circumstances.

We have the Mopar 2" kits with Fox shocks installed on five '21 Gladiator Sports we converted for Jeep Tours. The kits has been bulletproof, even the shocks. The axle offset caused by the factory 2" lift is negligible, I've noticed no adverse handling or tracking characteristics from it.

Some time ago to see for myself how the factory set up the stock JK Rubicon suspensions I went by our local dealer and measured the axle centering on five or six of their new Unlimiteds. In every case the front & rear axles were slightly off center, as I recall about 3/8" to driver in front, and to passenger in the rear. It makes sense as if the weight of a driver and passenger are added the axles will shift slightly to the opposite sides. Further, envision how the axles move side to side slightly as the vehicle rolls down the road.
 

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A Steersmarts Yeti XD track bar is now installed; it corrected the .5" off-center axle offset. I'm happy to see the proper bow on the front coils, the sway bars are perpendicular to the ground, etc. Everything measures right, looks right, and rides right.

I've seen a lot of people comment on how beefy the Steersmart components are - that is a very true statement. Super easy to adjust, as well - it was a piece of cake to dial in the length on the vehicle.
 

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A Steersmarts Yeti XD track bar is now installed; it corrected the .5" off-center axle offset. I'm happy to see the proper bow on the front coils, the sway bars are perpendicular to the ground, etc. Everything measures right, looks right, and rides right.

I've seen a lot of people comment on how beefy the Steersmart components are - that is a very true statement. Super easy to adjust, as well - it was a piece of cake to dial in the length on the vehicle.
Did you do rear too?
 
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Did you do rear too?
I did not do the rear. I don't understand why, but the axle on the rear was much less offset. Measuring it, I only got 1/8th inch farther extended on the passenger side - meaning a 1/16th correction is all it needs. Granted I'm just eyeballing with a tape measure (+/- at least a 32nd if not a 16th), but sways/coils/shock mounts also look properly angled.

If I had a Yeti adjustable rear track bar sitting in my garage I'd gladly put it on the Jeep; but it doesn't seem like it would make more than the smallest difference in geometry. For $200-300, I skip and save for 35" tires. Or Metalcloak sliders with reversible steps. Or aluminum fenders. Or...you get the picture :)
 

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When it comes to track bars and lower front control arms , I suggest any thing that has a Currie not an imitation Johnny Joint in " Both " ends . I have been using Core on the JT and Currie on every other Jeep I have owned without regret
 

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A Steersmarts Yeti XD track bar is now installed; it corrected the .5" off-center axle offset. I'm happy to see the proper bow on the front coils, the sway bars are perpendicular to the ground, etc. Everything measures right, looks right, and rides right.

I've seen a lot of people comment on how beefy the Steersmart components are - that is a very true statement. Super easy to adjust, as well - it was a piece of cake to dial in the length on the vehicle.
I just installed the Teraflex 1.5" spacer kit and the daystar .75" spacer kit. I also noticed the front axle is now .5" off center to the drivers side. I also ordered the Yeti XD adjustable track bar. Just got done doing he research to show me what needs to be done. I essentially need to adjust the Yeti to be 1/4" different than the OEM bar. That's half of the 1/2" to the drivers side the axle is sitting now. My question is, do I adjust 1/4" shorter or longer?
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