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cheaper 5.7 hemi option then 6.4. They can change grill, but need to keep non-integrated fenders. Needs to stay based off of wrangler otherwise we lose a lot of the aftermarket mods that are available. Solid axles need to stay. With all these changes to emissions in last week or so, a diesel option with out all the granny emissions shit would be a great option.
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As much as I want to see a 392 or Hurricane version of the Gladiator ... I am afrain it is more likely that the mass market appeal drives the next generation design. Especially when I see questions asking about styling of fendors, should it align with the wrangler, etc, etc, etc .... I have a hard time seeing them doing anything other than dropping the Wrangler-like approach and repurposing the platform to try to compete in the "economy truck/car/thing" class with the like of the Maverick, Ranger and Canyon.

That's my nightmare scenario for the Gladiator ... let's hope it doesn't happen
Agreed.

- While the HO V8 option sounds fun, IMO a more realistic solid V8 focused on middle-ground would be the best engine option.
- Wild Idea, I think there is room for 2 Gladis (kinda like for 4R having Pro models and Urban models), one based on the Wrangler look and one that looks a little more "pick-up."

I mean, a solid flared fender option front and rear cannot be that much more costly in terms of a chassis redesign.
 

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They still do - or will. It's coming back for Wrangler. (limited numbers is what I found)

I should post the forms that manufacturers have to submit for any change in airflow through a vehicle. Move the cabin HVAC fan or the engine cooling fan, left, right, up, down, fore, aft and you have to modify your paperwork. If you make no changes, you have to submit annual forms stating you made no changes.
 

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As much as I want to see a 392 or Hurricane version of the Gladiator ... I am afrain it is more likely that the mass market appeal drives the next generation design. Especially when I see questions asking about styling of fendors, should it align with the wrangler, etc, etc, etc .... I have a hard time seeing them doing anything other than dropping the Wrangler-like approach and repurposing the platform to try to compete in the "economy truck/car/thing" class with the like of the Maverick, Ranger and Canyon.

That's my nightmare scenario for the Gladiator ... let's hope it doesn't happen
The only working design, is this lol.

But not too late to change.

But won't.
 

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Agreed.

- While the HO V8 option sounds fun, IMO a more realistic solid V8 focused on middle-ground would be the best engine option.
- Wild Idea, I think there is room for 2 Gladis (kinda like for 4R having Pro models and Urban models), one based on the Wrangler look and one that looks a little more "pick-up."

I mean, a solid flared fender option front and rear cannot be that much more costly in terms of a chassis redesign.
That is called a whole new model. My biggest gripe is when the same vehicle name is used for vehicles that don't bare any connection. IE Mustang Mach-E, Bronco Sport to name two. If they are gonna create a truck for the mass market to be a truck call it IDK the Dakota and it goes under Ram.
 

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That is called a whole new model. My biggest gripe is when the same vehicle name is used for vehicles that don't bare any connection. IE Mustang Mach-E, Bronco Sport to name two. If they are gonna create a truck for the mass market to be a truck call it IDK the Dakota and it goes under Ram.
By your own logic, you hate your Wrangler based Gladiator, which should be a Scrambler.
 

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I'm all for them redesigning the gladiator, as long as it remains based off of the wrangler, has solid axles and non-integrated fenders. I feel like integrated fenders will make fitting larger tires much harder and trail damage that much more expensive.

It seems like Jeep wants to jump on the band wagon of retro revival design like the new Bronco and Scout. They want a big reveal moment that gets people hyped.
 

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I just watched the Dirt Road Cred video.

I'd totally take that 2.0t HO 20% more HP and 50% torque PLUS 30% more MPGs.

I love the 2.0t eTorque in my JLUR and it averages 19.7-19.9mpgs
Of the three engine options in the survey the HO 2.0 would be my choice too but I don’t think there was any mention of an eTorque variant…

I was really surprised that they didn’t include the 5.7 hemi as an option. That would have been my first choice.
 

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By your own logic, you hate your Wrangler based Gladiator, which should be a Scrambler.
Except the Wrangler and Gladiator are VERY closely related sister vehicles. The cited Mustang and Bronco examples are nowhere near related to each other.
 

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That survey and engine question makes me think the Pentastar has at least another 10 years of being around.

Funny thing is they did 2.0 engine test mules with the Gladiator and supposedly it's weak point and not included from the get go was the cooling needed for the turbos when towing was not there.
 

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Of the three engine options in the survey the HO 2.0 would be my choice too but I don’t think there was any mention of an eTorque variant…

I was really surprised that they didn’t include the 5.7 hemi as an option. That would have been my first choice.
I mean hell, if they can make more power w/o the eTorque system......cool, less weight and complexity/serviceability for the end user
 

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This survey seems like an oxymoron to me ( if that’s the correct word ). A survey implies they want feedback, yet the person receiving it wasn’t offered a chance to identify the characteristics that were important to them. The ppl that generated that survey already boxed in, framed, or structured the survey based on points they thought they could effect. All of this seems like a miss.

I would expect the future of surveys to be more open ended, where they use large language models to summarize the responses ;-)
 

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This survey seems like an oxymoron to me ( if that’s the correct word ). A survey implies they want feedback, yet the person receiving it wasn’t offered a chance to identify the characteristics that were important to them. The ppl that generated that survey already boxed in, framed, or structured the survey based on points they thought they could effect. All of this seems like a miss.

I would expect the future of surveys to be more open ended, where they use large language models to summarize the responses ;-)
I do not know if that would work. Kind of be like the suggestion box at work in that it gets filled with suggestions for the Boss to go fuck himself.
 
 







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