I got a ticking noise with only 23,000 mile!!!

[Jeff2023JT]

I motor started to making a ticking noise when i'm accelerating thats when i can hear it the most. I had the check enigine light come on and it was a miss fire on #4!! i cleared the codes and it has not come back on but the ticking is still there!!! At only 23,000 i'm not happy with this jeep at all. Any idea i see so many people talking about the cam/lifters/rocker arms problems and now seeing injectors are making noise. As much as these things cost this is total load crap!!!

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[DiehardTory]

Suggest you get to dealership for check. this is the warranty for a 2023 Gladiator:
Basic Limited Warranty Coverage 3 years/36,000 miles
Specified Components 1 year/12,000 miles
Federal Emission Warranty 2 years/24,000 miles
Specified Components 8 years/80,000 miles Corrosion Warranty (Anti-Corrosion Perforation Limited Warranty) All Panels 3 years/Unlimited mileage Outer Panels 5 years/Unlimited mileage Emission Performance Warranty 2 years/24,000 miles
Specified Components 8 years/80,000 miles
Powertrain Limited Warranty Gas Engine – 5 years/60,000 miles Diesel Engine – 5 years/100,000 miles

 

[Hootbro]

As much as these things cost this is total load crap!!!

Cost has not equated to quality in many decades. As mentioned, take it in for warranty claim. Next time, do not clear the codes before taking it in.

 

[Tank555]

I had something similar. Mine started ticking at around 20,000 miles, took it in and the diagnosis was "No Trouble Found". Kept driving it, got to around 21,000 miles and the noise got a lot worse. Took it in and the mechanic said, "Oh, that's a rod knock". New engine. Runs great, smooth and lots of power. It's like driving a whole new truck! All under warranty, no cost at all.

 

[Chasm]

. As much as these things cost this is total load crap!!!

I gave 35k and got the same engine guys get at 55k. If I were them THAT would annoy me

 

[Jeff2023JT]

The only time i seem to be able to hear it is when i accelerate from a stop. nothing when setting idle are power brake under a load still nothing. I wouldn't think anything was wrong if it didn't have the code come on witch was #4 miss fire. Ya this crap is getting old just had a new rear end put in it because the housing wouldn't hold the bearing. That took 1.5 months to get fixed and now not 2000 more miles and this shit i love driving my jeep but damn it stays in the shop more than i get to use it!!!!!! It was my plan from the start for a engine swap down the rd.. But A AMW 396 505 is starting to look better better a lot sooner!!!

 

[chr15m]

The only time i seem to be able to hear it is when i accelerate from a stop. nothing when setting idle are power brake under a load still nothing. I wouldn't think anything was wrong if it didn't have the code come on witch was #4 miss fire. Ya this crap is getting old just had a new rear end put in it because the housing wouldn't hold the bearing. That took 1.5 months to get fixed and now not 2000 more miles and this shit i love driving my jeep but damn it stays in the shop more than i get to use it!!!!!! It was my plan from the start for a engine swap down the rd.. But A AMW 396 505 is starting to look better better a lot sooner!!!

6.4 hemis have lifter failures too, just like our 3.6s its rare, but as you believe this may be an issue for you, the same can happen with a 392.

Hate for you to spend that money to find out the grass isn't any greener.

 

[CreekFreak]

The only time i seem to be able to hear it is when i accelerate from a stop. nothing when setting idle are power brake under a load still nothing. I wouldn't think anything was wrong if it didn't have the code come on witch was #4 miss fire. Ya this crap is getting old just had a new rear end put in it because the housing wouldn't hold the bearing. That took 1.5 months to get fixed and now not 2000 more miles and this shit i love driving my jeep but damn it stays in the shop more than i get to use it!!!!!! It was my plan from the start for a engine swap down the rd.. But A AMW 396 505 is starting to look better better a lot sooner!!!

I have 24k miles and heard a slight chatter yesterday. Is yours between 5-15mph and under 2k RPM? I can’t get mine to reproduce on command. So I’m not sure if they’ll even take me serious if I take it in. Just wondering if anyone else had the issues start like me too?

 

[ShadowsPapa]

The only time i seem to be able to hear it is when i accelerate from a stop.

And that goes fairly contrary to the follower/cam bit.
You should hear that at other times.
Doing a "brake stand" test likely won't work the same on a modern vehicle as it's going to control things differently than a 1980s vehicle.

You can force the followers to change mode by loading it up at lower RPM and road speeds - kick the transmission into manual mode to prevent upshifting as normal, and get the RPM below 2,000 and accelerate up a hill, etc. - load it up. That should make the PCM throw the valvetrain into high lift mode and change the sounds for better or worse.

You could do an oil filter change, then open up the oil filter and see if there's any shiny bits in it.
#4 is on the left bank, driver's side, bank 2, so harder to get to as far as visual inspection.
But the part that sticks in my mind is that you only hear it when accelerating from a stop.............

 

[Jeff2023JT]

And that goes fairly contrary to the follower/cam bit.
You should hear that at other times.
Doing a "brake stand" test likely won't work the same on a modern vehicle as it's going to control things differently than a 1980s vehicle.

You can force the followers to change mode by loading it up at lower RPM and road speeds - kick the transmission into manual mode to prevent upshifting as normal, and get the RPM below 2,000 and accelerate up a hill, etc. - load it up. That should make the PCM throw the valvetrain into high lift mode and change the sounds for better or worse.

You could do an oil filter change, then open up the oil filter and see if there's any shiny bits in it.
#4 is on the left bank, driver's side, bank 2, so harder to get to as far as visual inspection.
But the part that sticks in my mind is that you only hear it when accelerating from a stop.............

Ya i had the oil changed to day didn't see any metal flakes shiny bits It has not sent a code after the first time so far anyway. I'm leaving for Africa for the next 24 day so i'm going to let the dealer have it the whole time maybe they can find something.

 

[Jeff2023JT]

I have 24k miles and heard a slight chatter yesterday. Is yours between 5-15mph and under 2k RPM? I can’t get mine to reproduce on command. So I’m not sure if they’ll even take me serious if I take it in. Just wondering if anyone else had the issues start like me too?

Ya mine is doing it 10-20 for sure under 2000

 

[Jeff2023JT]

Well a total new motor is the out come metal from cam was all over so hopefully this engine will last longer than 23000 miles!!! This is total BS

 

[GWolgamott]

Well a total new motor is the out come metal from cam was all over so hopefully this engine will last longer than 23000 miles!!! This is total BS

This was my outcome, but I got to a bit after 155K before it happened to me. Had no warning and little noise but nothing loud like you'd expect and once it finally gave warning lights / started acting up the cam that went bad had basically put metal into other areas for me as well. But didn't know that until after I couldn't get the cam so got a new long block instead. When they did full tear down they realized then it was just not the cams, so I guess the investment of a new motor I talked myself into instead of waiting for months back log was actually needed in the end. At least yours should be covered, mine had just come off an extended warranty. They made those cams out of swiss cheese for a few years I swear it seems.

 

[Badunit]

It is BS. It is a prevalent enough problem that it gets brought up a lot in the forums, but it is hard to tell how many people it happens to compared to many of these engines are out there. Still, it has been a known weak spot for years and you would think they would have figured it out and fixed it. Or maybe they figured it out and determined it is less expensive for them to repair/replace a few engines than to redesign whatever needs redesigned.

 

[MPMB]

It is BS. It is a prevalent enough problem that it gets brought up a lot in the forums, but it is hard to tell how many people it happens to compared to many of these engines are out there. Still, it has been a known weak spot for years and you would think they would have figured it out and fixed it. Or maybe they figured it out and determined it is less expensive for them to replace a few engines than to redesign whatever needs redesigned.

Well if the national backorder was 12,000 orders... there's a starting point.

In another thread I broke down some estimated numbers over the past 5 years. There's roughly 5 million 3.6L in this configuration (VVL) and say 12,000 issues/year, that's an error rate of 1.2%.

Someone's probably run the distribution of failure over time and found that ~50% of failure occur within warranty, meaning it'll only cost Jeep $X,XXX/failure x 6,000 units versus extending the warranty/having a recall which would cost $X,XXX/failure x 5,000,000 units.

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