What did you do WITH your Gladiator today?

[ShadowsPapa]

Is that a 302 or 351W swapped into it? Valve Covers and Distributor location look like its one of those.

289 is what it was supposed to be. Valve covers would be the same, 289 or 302.
It's got a later carb on it, not sure how the electric choke is powered - some used 7vac from the alternator, others use 12v through a special oil pressure sending unit or some other means of keeping power away from the choke until the engine was actually running.
In the 70s it was common to power them from an AC terminal on the alternator, from one leg of the stator, and later it was done via power through the OP switch.

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[WILDHOBO]

Is that a 302 or 351W swapped into it? Valve Covers and Distributor location look like its one of those.

I haven’t proven it yet with measurements, and the tag under the coil is long gone, but it’s supposedly a 289. So far I haven’t seen anything to contradict that. But I won’t know until I can measure the cylinders.

 

[WILDHOBO]

289 is what it was supposed to be. Valve covers would be the same, 289 or 302.
It's got a later carb on it, not sure how the electric choke is powered - some used 7vac from the alternator, others use 12v through a special oil pressure sending unit or some other means of keeping power away from the choke until the engine was actually running.
In the 70s it was common to power them from an AC terminal on the alternator, from one leg of the stator, and later it was done via power through the OP switch.

Before I replaced the harness, the choke wasn’t even hooked up. It’s now powered from the fuse block with a dedicated fuse. Designed to power it during ignition. I can see that it’s working as the butterfly opens up after it warms up. Or it did! Ha ha.

 

[Rcoe]

Loaded it on the trailer ready to head down to Windrock in the morning.

Checked all the fluids before and found PSC power steering was almost 1 quart low, maybe this is why my low rpm turning was a little choppy. Never made a noise and drove great at speed, guess we will find out tomorrow.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I haven’t proven it yet with measurements, and the tag under the coil is long gone, but it’s supposedly a 289. So far I haven’t seen anything to contradict that. But I won’t know until I can measure the cylinders.

Gold paint on valve covers seems familiar for an early 289 from the mid-60s (such as the early Mustangs)

 

[WILDHOBO]

Gold paint on valve covers seems familiar for an early 289 from the mid-60s (such as the early Mustangs)

I wouldn’t have caught that. Thanks.

 

[RudeJeepin]

Gold paint on valve covers seems familiar for an early 289 from the mid-60s (such as the early Mustangs)

As long as someone didn't swap the covers.

But does it really matter, 289, 302, wouldn't the ignition basically be the same. I'm not a ford man.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

As long as someone didn't swap the covers.

But does it really matter, 289, 302, wouldn't the ignition basically be the same. I'm not a ford man.

Yes, the same. so in the end, the troubleshooting and subsequent repairs would be the same.
Its a small block Ford, with kettering ignition.

 

[WILDHOBO]

As long as someone didn't swap the covers.

But does it really matter, 289, 302, wouldn't the ignition basically be the same. I'm not a ford man.

Neither am I. It was in there when I bought it. It’s not staying. But right now, it’s there.

 

[RudeJeepin]

Neither am I. It was in there when I bought it. It’s not staying. But right now, it’s there.

289 or 302, both would be wanted by either a Mustang or early Bronco guy. Even some Jeep guys would like it for their CJ, makes for an easy swap. 302, C4, Dana 20, is a fairly common swap, or atleast was.

 

[WILDHOBO]

289 or 302, both would be wanted by either a Mustang or early Bronco guy. Even some Jeep guys would like it for their CJ, makes for an easy swap. 302, C4, Dana 20, is a fairly common swap, or atleast was.

I’m open to rebuilding it just to sell, once it’s out of the Jeep. No reason to junk it. It runs.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I’m open to rebuilding it just to sell, once it’s out of the Jeep. No reason to junk it. It runs.

Totally agreed - the vintage mustang guys would be all over a 289 that runs and is complete. I'd even throw in the earlier 2100 carbs if you sell it to someone who wants carb to oil pan engine.

Funny thing - I ran across a complete running 401, with transmission and transfer case for sale out of a Jeep. If it wasn't so far away and I'd not just had surgery, I'd be looking to arrange a pickup for that thing and get it back here. The price for the setup was a bit less than what many pay for a running 401 all alone.

 

[WILDHOBO]

Totally agreed - the vintage mustang guys would be all over a 289 that runs and is complete. I'd even throw in the earlier 2100 carbs if you sell it to someone who wants carb to oil pan engine.

Funny thing - I ran across a complete running 401, with transmission and transfer case for sale out of a Jeep. If it wasn't so far away and I'd not just had surgery, I'd be looking to arrange a pickup for that thing and get it back here. The price for the setup was a bit less than what many pay for a running 401 all alone.

That’s outstanding. I paid $2000 for the 401, th400, and quadratic transfer case I have coming. It’s a complete and fully dressed long block with the factory 4 barrel. Out of a 77 Cherokee chief.

If I rebuild the ford small block, I’ll reach out about on if your carbs. But happy to buy it if this one doesn’t work out.

Are you going to try to buy that 401? It would be cool to collaborate on side by side builds. At least for me it would. You’d learn nothing from me. Maybe you’d get some comic relief.

 

[ALT2870]

Helped out with some irrigation blowouts last week. Always feels good to get a load on it, the transmission took a second after dropping it off though to readjust.

 

[RudeJeepin]

Funny thing - I ran across a complete running 401, with transmission and transfer case for sale out of a Jeep. If it wasn't so far away and I'd not just had surgery, I'd be looking to arrange a pickup for that thing and get it back here. The price for the setup was a bit less than what many pay for a running 401 all alone.

I'd love to have a 401 for a future project. But don't really have the storage for it right now.

I do have a TH400 with AMC bellhousing tucked away. Might even have an adapter for it to a Dana 20, if it didn't get lost in the last move.

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