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My Gladiator range is about 380, give or take. Is there sand in your tank? :LOL:
I was going off what another forum member said. I didn't do any calculations.
I wonder if all gladiators have the same size tank.
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I was going off what another forum member said. I didn't do any calculations.
I wonder if all gladiators have the same size tank.
380 miles is either a diesel, someone driving only 55mph on a flat road with 0 wind, or a liar.
 

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Here comes another comment that's going to bunch up some panties with some people here:
People always bench race their Teslas, but my real world experience is that my Challenger spanks the shit out of them regularly. (Haven't come across a Plaid yet). People forget about factors other than horsepower. Weight and traction being primary.
Electric cars increase range with "low rolling resistance" tires. AKA: No traction. They prevent tire spin with computer limiting.

This Recon has 650 horse, but it's over 3 tons.
That's a similar power to weight ratio of my 1965 family sedan.
Who's bench racing now? The 0-60 and 1/4 mile times are bone stock, as delivered, on an unprepared surface. Even if your challenger is a redeye hellcat it's not keeping up with the recon let alone a dual motor performance tesla in any trim. Their awd and the weight helps traction especially on unprepared surfaces. Are you talking at the track or the street? Smoking the guy next to you at a light is often a result of him not even trying/ knowing you were racing. If it's at the track are you swapping to slicks? So you beat fuel economy biased tires on bone stock low end teslas on drag slicks and who knows what other mods on a prepped track and we are supposed to be impressed? Since you have yourself the out on the plaid, a regular dual motor is still an 11s car, got any slips proving your challenger runs 11s as we all know it doesn't run 8s? And a guy racing a challenger is going to bring up power to weight? In a 2 ton car? Being that most hellcat owners can't wait to talk about their kitty in guessing it's a scat pack at best. 485hp at 4,200 pounds is about the same power to weight ratio as this big ass suv which is nowhere near top EV power and a already stated the power isn't remotely comparable when the EV has the same power from 0-100k rpm. The model s weighs the same 4,200-4,800 (plaid being over 1k hp and also the heaviest) even the demon can't touch it in power to weight... because bench racing. The standard model s long range is quicker than the SRT super stock at 3.1s 0-60. The p100d performance drops that to 2.5s. The plaid all the way to 1.9s. Unless you have a built redeye you aren't beating any of them off the line. Even if you do you aren't beating the plaid any time soon.
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I just saw a short video on YouTube about the Recon and it showed a CCS charging port!!

Literally WTF is Jeep doing by NOT using a NAC charging port? That game was won by NAC a long time ago with access to Tesla’s supercharging network.

The ability to access the Tesla charging network was literally one of the main reasons I bought a Tesla. I can’t believe any manufacturer is building cars without a NAC charging port….🤬
 

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but my real world experience is that my Challenger spanks the shit out of them regularly. (Haven't come across a Plaid yet).
Poor Model 3 people just going about their business, heading to the market, wondering what up with the Dbag in the Challenger zooming around, have no idea they've lost so many races 😂 :LOL: 😂 :LOL:
 

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I just saw a short video on YouTube about the Recon and it showed a CCS charging port!!

Literally WTF is Jeep doing by NOT using a NAC charging port? That game was won by NAC a long time ago with access to Tesla’s supercharging network.

The ability to access the Tesla charging network was literally one of the main reasons I bought a Tesla. I can’t believe any manufacturer is building cars without a NAC charging port….🤬
I know, exactly what I was thinking when I saw that. (Shakes head)
 

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This is absolute nonsense. In 20 years it'll likely be at 85% original range. Someone will pull out some anecdote " I saw where a battery failed in 1 year!" and ignore the thousands of 10 year old Teslas with 250k miles on them and 90% original range. It's like " OMG a Pentastar exploded!!! ICE doesn't work!!!!!1 "

Meanwhile, most EV's have 8 year/100k propulsion battery warranties so all this fuss is BS.

People's social media/news algorithms have destroyed the world.
Something that I got a little excited about was folks starting to learn how to replace individual cells in the battery packs, taking those extreme battery replacement bills and bringing them WAY down to more like a normal 'high' bill you'd see on an ICE vehicle.
 

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Absolutely to that extent, and worse. Look those rare earth mines in China up.
If you actually cared about lithium mining conditions, you would toss out all your rechargeable devices instead of virtue signaling about it.
Say's the king of virtue signaling... 🙄
The last thing China cares about is the environment and safety. The only time they play along is when foreign companies impose working conditions standards on the factories. China can't make a water filter without polluting somewhere else simply out of spite.

The all new electric Jeep Bronco Sport
Thing is, no jeep guy is asking for this. But it will sell, Mustang Mach-e is selling 2-1 to ICE mustangs. But, no mustang guy wants them. LOL
They are for those people who like the brand, but never really get into a actual thing. Like you almost never see a Mach-E at the drag strip. You'll most never see one of these with the doors off and off-road. But soccer moms will buy them up.
I've known a few Grand and regular Cherokee guys ask for removeable doors. Is the recon going to kill off the Grand Cherokee?
You're right, 90% of Jeeps never take doors off either. People just like to know they can.

I LOVE trees…. But I’m also a realist. I know EVs are NOT saving the environment just as much as ICEs are not killing the planet. Both are BS argument for the low information voters.

Research FACTS and science and then run the pros and cons for your life. A spreadsheet with real numbers will tell you more truth than 1,000 fake media articles.

And BTW it irritates me to no end when I meet my daughter for lunch and we leave the restaurant and I get into my 200° cabin in my Gladiator and my daughter slides into her pre-cooled Tesla truck. 🤣
No remote start?
I just saw a short video on YouTube about the Recon and it showed a CCS charging port!!
Literally WTF is Jeep doing by NOT using a NAC charging port? That game was won by NAC a long time ago with access to Tesla’s supercharging network.
The ability to access the Tesla charging network was literally one of the main reasons I bought a Tesla. I can’t believe any manufacturer is building cars without a NAC charging port….🤬
This is a thing? Are adapters not a thing?
 

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We bought a used 2019 Model 3 for 14,500, minus a 4500 tax credit in September

89,000 miles, 220 mile stated range, battery health is 97%, wife puts 90-140 miles per day on it, ( so not nearly the needed 9,929,292 range while mountain climbing, yet somehow far more than average).

She's never been stranded on the side of the road with a dead battery, we've never had to carry a bucket of electricity to it, the complete and utter collapse of the grid hasn't happened, costs us about 9 dollars a day to charge it.

And here's the most fun thing. I don't give a single bother if you ever buy one. I won't waste a minute of my time trying to sell you one.

So I have no idea, ever, why people who don't want one, because they've never even walked past one and are somehow experts on the topic, spend so much of their precious time trying to telling everyone they'll die and the communists will win if they do buy EV's

And, this still won't sell, because it's too much money, and no other reason lol.
 

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Something that I got a little excited about was folks starting to learn how to replace individual cells in the battery packs, taking those extreme battery replacement bills and bringing them WAY down to more like a normal 'high' bill you'd see on an ICE vehicle.
Agreed. The pack on the GM's Ultium was designed and planned to have dealers be able to replace individual pouches if they went bad. For some reason they abandoned this and just have the dealer replace the entire pack now. Maybe it was shown the techs couldn't do it safely or properly(shrug). It's a shame. I think it would alleviate cost concerns around repairing a battery pack.
 

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Corporations lag. This design was froze in 24.

The 26 Charger has native NACS, they'll probably hand out adapters.
Yeah I get it. Not a huge thing given adapter availability, just something I would have preferred. Of course if it came with NACS we'd be bitching about having to buy a CCS adapter. :rain:
 

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Agreed. The pack on the GM's Ultium was designed and planned to have dealers be able to replace individual pouches if they went bad. For some reason they abandoned this and just have the dealer replace the entire pack now. Maybe it was shown the techs couldn't do it safely or properly(shrug). It's a shame. I think it would alleviate cost concerns around repairing a battery pack.
I watched a few videos of it being done on a Tesla. It's a bit time consuming as you need a fairly large table to set the pack onto and then you have to open it, find the cell, replace it, close the pack, put it back in - etc, but the one video said it was around $5K to drop the pack, find and replace the cell, and put it back in versus north of $20K at the time for a complete pack.

I would assume a straight up pack swap is a lot faster and I would guess the OEM's don't care because if its out of warranty, the cost isn't their problem, and if it's in warranty its probably less likely to come back than if you have someone digging around in it and repairing it.
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