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It isn't a usually a matter of octane unless your manual recommends higher, like a Cadillac CTS-V. Or a vintage muscle car. It is a matter of buying Top Tier fuel that is refined cleaner with additives that keep your combustion chambers clean. Anything carbureted should not be stored with ethanol fuel in it, particularly small engines, water separates out of it and corrodes the carb.

Vintage cars have older composition fuel hoses and ethanol will destroy them unless they are all changed.
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I've been watching his stuff for awhile. Interesting video.

Non ethanol gas is rare around here. Only one station (Maverick) offers it for the same price as premium.

I use Maverick because they offer a club card that will give you minimum 10 cents off a gallon. It's not Top Tier gas so I dump a bottle of Techron in the tank every oil change, around 5K miles.
 

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Wow, $6.19/gal for regular?
That's more than $2 a gallon, more than in northern Kentucky. Why the huge difference, Taxes??
Taxes and supply/demand. They added a tax by state vote (my left nut they won that) supposedly to pay for road improvements and stuff like that. They also added some sort of green fee I didn’t understand to the refineries so they’re all leaving. Funny all these major price increases outpacing the country about a year before certain politicians leave office. I “wonder” if it’s actually connected somehow. :movember:
 

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I think it’s a bit extreme to say that cheap gas “kills” these engines. I haven’t heard of a single failure on these related to gas quality.

That said, yes; they do run significantly better and safer even just stepping up to 89 octane. On 87 octane in the tank, these constantly are bouncing off the knock sensor and there isn’t much safety built in. I pull 2-4 degrees of timing from these when customers want 87 octane and it actually results in better power because it’s not fighting the knock sensor all the time.
 

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Yup. Commiefornia.
Is it even possible for you folks to vote all the riff-raft out of office, get rid of 90% of the state agencies and get back to "Normal?"
I tell ya, the rest of the nation looks westward and just shakes their head. It's shameful that happened to such a beautiful state!
 

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Is it even possible for you folks to vote all the riff-raft out of office, get rid of 90% of the state agencies and get back to "Normal?"
I tell ya, the rest of the nation looks westward and just shakes their head. It's shameful that happened to such a beautiful state!
We can only try. Elections are coming up and I’ll do my part but if it’s what the majority want there’s not a lot to be done.
 

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We can only try. Elections are coming up and I’ll do my part but if it’s what the majority want there’s not a lot to be done.
I might have to delete this, but here goes-
You folks are in a bad spot. Seems the only options are 1. learn to deal with it, or 2. Move.
If you select option 2, you'll likely lose your posterior in a declining real estate market, then have all those relocation costs.
If you decide on the second option, you're almost certain to experience significant savings and lower living expenses in a red state. Take my state, for instance. None of that vehicle inspection nonsense. We probably have one-fifth of the governmental agencies to deal with. Stay away from urban areas, and common sense will prevail. Houses and land are much cheaper, taxes will likely be much lower, and the cost of just about everything will be much lower.
If your house burns down, you are allowed to rebuild it! That's a concept...
Now, I'm not saying I want a flood of Kali-indoctrinated people moving here and trying to "Improve" our state. But a few common-sense folks here and there would work just fine.
I feel for ya...But citizens of California are the reason for the mess and allowed things to get all sideways.
Your fuel costs are going to rise even more because of the green rules that drove out refineries. Social programs are going to expand because everyone who doesn't have a job is headed your way. People like Mayor Bass now wants dental care for drug addicts! Here's a direct comparison: I am part of the fire department's management board. I put forth a motion to remove Narcan from our ambulances. A year later, we now have very few drug OD dispatches. The word got out, and the hardest of cases cured themselves.
Like I said before, such a shame for the good people living there!
 

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Interesting video. I would be curious how long it would take for blowby from a decent engine to produce enough buildup on valves to make a difference if nothing was done to clean the deposits. I would imagine it would take a considerable number of miles to get enough oil vapor into the intake under conditions to cause anything harmful without a mechanical issue. A very neglected or warn out engine bad rings, valve guides, guide seals or other mechanical issues i could see the oil vapor being an issue not sure if the buildup would be an issue before it produced a detectable misfire.
 

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I am paying $8.49 for diesel, and just paid $7.29 for 87 octane.
It turns out the threats of cutting off shipping in the strait as a weapon were real of course they were everyone knew and avoided it to prevent this from happening. Stopping the 20% or so of the worlds oil that ships from that region is a problem for virtually the entire worlds oil market at least for the consumers. ARCO and Chevron without the base crude to refine or refined products from the region they can not benefit and will be down on profits the rest of the worlds oil companies seem set for record profits.
 

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I have always used non ethanol in my Gladiator since I have easy access here in Utah. Not sure if they are actually putting more ethanol in the gas, but I'm glad I have access to non ethanol. Have no idea if it makes any difference or if it's better/worse, but I don't like the ideas of more ethanol.
Which do you use? Im in south end of sl county
 

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Mainly from Maverik, but but I can get it for about 40 cents less on the Shivwits Reservation.
Thanks, have to check out Maverick again with that in mind. Ive been working the discounts on the Sinclair app the last few years
 

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I might have to delete this, but here goes-
You folks are in a bad spot. Seems the only options are 1. learn to deal with it, or 2. Move.
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You forgot they're still trying to actively ban all rail and road freight that aren't EV, in OR out of the state. As THE major connection between ocean and land freight, that's impossible. That's why a decade ago some dipshit out there suggested "independently powers rail cars" (basically individual EV cars that needed power/chargers along the rails).

They need their political heads out of their asses. I'll happily offend the people that need to hear it, I got you 😂 😈
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