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Including 2025 Gladiator. I see the new front lower frame skid bars aren’t there yet. Still gets a good rating!

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Scores,"G","M" and P".....Good, Maybe and Poor?:clap:
 

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Including 2025 Gladiator. I see the new front lower frame skid bars aren’t there yet. Still gets a good rating!

Interesting how the first two had the lap belt ride up off the passenger’s pelvis and into the soft abdominal tissue, bet that’s the main reason they got a low score
 

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  • Jeep Gladiator: GOOD
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So a Gladiator is as safe as a Tundra? Time for a roll over test.

And test with the doors off. Also what happened to the side impact test? Or do they not care about being t-boned anymore?
 

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So a Gladiator is as safe as a Tundra? Time for a roll over test.

And test with the doors off. Also what happened to the side impact test? Or do they not care about being t-boned anymore?
Off center? Looks like it.

It would stand to reason a side impact with and without doors would be dramatically different but the reality is the overwhelming majority of crashes are off center like these tests.

I suspect part of the reason the JT does well is the added strength and rigidity of the roll cage.
 

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Off center? Looks like it.

It would stand to reason a side impact with and without doors would be dramatically different but the reality is the overwhelming majority of crashes are off center like these tests.

I suspect part of the reason the JT does well is the added strength and rigidity of the roll cage.
The Tundra and all the other trucks have roll cages, they are just integrated into the roof structure. It looks like the solid axle up front helps a lot by distributing some of the impact to the passenger side of the frame and back along the driver's side frame rail; independent suspension would just pull the CV axle out of the diff as the driver's wheel crushes backwards along with the upper and lower control arms.
 

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The Tundra and all the other trucks have roll cages, they are just integrated into the roof structure. It looks like the solid axle up front helps a lot by distributing some of the impact to the passenger side of the frame and back along the driver's side frame rail; independent suspension would just pull the CV axle out of the diff as the driver's wheel crushes backwards along with the upper and lower control arms.
Clarification: a heavier/thicker steel tube cage than the cages integrated into the body as in the other trucks. I'd wager if you roll them all over on their roof, the Jeeps deflect the least.

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Off center? Looks like it.

It would stand to reason a side impact with and without doors would be dramatically different but the reality is the overwhelming majority of crashes are off center like these tests.

I suspect part of the reason the JT does well is the added strength and rigidity of the roll cage.
Height and body on frame architecture may be factors. In a sedan the level of impact in a side collision is about mid door height. In that case the door must be very rigid to transfer force to the door frame and unibody structure. A high ground clearance truck takes that impact at the level of the bottom door sill which sits right on top of the frame, transferring the load at foot level. In a sedan the occupants sit right in the path.

Doors help in other ways besides strength: they guard against penetration and ejection, add rigidity, provide support to side and curtain airbags. Without doors you might be impaled by one of those fancy chrome plastic grills or engine hood. They also serve as a guard in rollover accidents preventing intrusions.
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