FCA gone

[Alabama Mud Machine]

brothers after a fashion, more than cousins. Unless they go changing transamissions

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[5JeepsAz]

Not following?

Your Jeep truck and anything in the line that comes out later under a different corporate name would be brothers more than cousins. Unless they put a peogot transmission in a later one, which would make it a cousin. Just rambling. It's another pandemic Saturday nighf

 

[j.o.y.ride]

Heres is a link to the newest incarnation of Chrysler
https://www.freep.com/story/money/c...WoyJ79Lub7UXUTysPsG_P6X07HB0oc1KkWQC59kKTgdTg

I always buy American Cars ,but not easy anymore

Meh. I buy the best car available that suits my needs and wants. No sense buying american and taking a lesser product just because home town. All that does imo is reward the American maker for making a lesser product. Buying the best available forces the American to be the best available, which is better in the long run.

My $0.02

 

[Shootist]

I take exception to the timeline a bit: our 1988 Wrangler was most definitely made by AMC in their Windsor plant - it was the last year for the AMC brand, not 1986 as the timeline shows.

Chrysler continued to use the original AMC motor until 1991 when the 360 could still be found in the grand wagoner. Not sure if the 304 was still an option in that year.

Pontiac V8 motors were unique to the brand through the 70’s maybe earlier 80’s the 455 SD from the Trans Am. As for a unique offering they were mostly restyes of Chevys but a few were unique. Fiero was definitely unique But I believe the earlier years Bonneville and GTO were also unique but not so sure on those.

 

[DreamedofaJeepSomeday]

Peugeot is junk and barley hanging on

Bring beer back into the conversation?

 

[DreamedofaJeepSomeday]

Well I guess we should get used to some Peugeot models sitting on the lots next to our Jeeps. Looks like they are planning on bringing them back to the US around 2026. Although they may stay on the Fiat lots instead but who knows what the future holds.

I've seen no more Fiats around here since that merger.

 

[jimbom]

Peugeot is junk and barley hanging on

Bring beer back into the conversation?

I hop not.

 

[Under-Pressure]

Peugeot is junk and barley hanging on , now They’re going to bring all their bad ideas to FCA. Its like letting California run the country.

Well Peugeot was certainly strong enough to put this merger together. A smart play would sell off Jeep & Ram brands and merge Peugeot, Fiat, Alfa, Dodge products together. That would make 1 fine piece of global garbage.

 

[ACAD_Cowboy]

Lest we forget when Chrysler group owned Lamborghini. Speaking of global garbage, the Q chassis. Imagine a k car chrysler le baron taken to dizzying heights of what the fuck now? TC by Maserati, the ultimate Town & Country.

PSA has come a long way from the dark days of the early 80's as has the whole industry. The europeans and asians learned a hard lesson trying to just bring in domestic market economy cars, the koreans likewise.

As for buying american, that died long ago. Right now the best you can do is assembled in america with globally sourced parts. And most of that assembly is robots anyway.

But lets ask ourselves the real question here, how much worse could the french do versus the germans and italians? The new attractive interior of the JL/JT is because they looked at the JK and said No, this will never get you laid. Perhaps the french will say something like and now you will stand a good chance of getting laid... with a WOMAN! with whatever their design contribution is, probably corrugated panels. They love that look.

 

[Bobzdar]

Meh. I buy the best car available that suits my needs and wants. No sense buying american and taking a lesser product just because home town. All that does imo is reward the American maker for making a lesser product. Buying the best available forces the American to be the best available, which is better in the long run.

My $0.02

This guy gets it. Only thing I'll add is tie goes to american, otherwise you're rewarding mediocrity. Basically how we ended up with the awful american cars of the 80s - Sometime in the early 70s they realized they could churn out crap and still sell on brand alone. 2 decades of that and the American car industry was almost destroyed, to where we barely make cars anymore.

 

[eternus]

Meh. I buy the best car available that suits my needs and wants. No sense buying american and taking a lesser product just because home town. All that does imo is reward the American maker for making a lesser product. Buying the best available forces the American to be the best available, which is better in the long run.

My $0.02

Exactly, NOBODY deserves blind allegiance... be it car maker, TV star, politician, tv manufacturer, game studio. Well except Sony, I love Sony. =oP That being said, hating someone just for their brand name is equally foolish. If Ford makes a Wrangler that's got better stuff... let the Bronco thrive. Competition for the win.

 

[Membrain]

Stellantis - For your Reptile Malfunction (wink wink)

 

[SwampNut]

F*ck Sony, forever. I've bought my last Sony product. At least half of them have bugs and issues. I generally wouldn't either love or hate an entire brand, but they beat me into submission.

But yeah, zero loyalty here. I had several Broncos back when Jeeps were small and I had zero interest in them. The JKUR changed my mind, but I'd just as soon buy any other brand if they made something that fit me better. But right now that doesn't exist.

 

[5JeepsAz]

I like jeep. So there's that. Hey, it looks like 200,000 miles is still the outside limit for auto life expectancy. They say 300K for electric vehicle but that remains to be seen. And 94% of accidents are human error (of course not bad manufacturing). So I revise my statement thusly: anyone who thinks more than 5% of 2020 JTs survive past 200K miles, see you in a few years when you buy me a beer.

 

[betsy]

Stellantis sounds more like a irritable bowel syndrome medication than a auto manufacturer

Sounds more like what you would take for irritable bowel syndrome

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