New owner, with a little buyers remorse.

[sharpsicle]

My some what buyers remosre for my overland is the payload. My door tag says 1005 lbs.

My WRX gross vehicle weight is 4,475 and it's curb weight is around 3,250 which puts it's payload at 1,225. That's kind of embarrassing.

Based on the WRX manual, it should actually be more like 900lbs. The Overland is 1,120lbs.

Also don't forget that the difference in geometry between the two makes it completely impractical to suggest the WRX is more capable at hauling.

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[Gren71]

Don't get mod envy. With standard 4WD, stock Gladiator in any trim is a very capable truck.

By far some of the best advice on this forum!

 

[WXman]

You know you can get the black grill from Mopar, I was contemplation to swap it out: https://www.allmoparparts.com/part-ymm/2021-jeep-gladiator-grille.html

I thought about that too, but a can of Plasti-Dip would accomplish the same for $10 I bet.....

 

[dcmdon]

WOW, those are the tire prices in the NE? Rubi and Mojave take offs sell all day long here for $800 - $1,200.

You almost can't even give away the Overland tires though. I've been watching several sets locally go from $500 down to around $200 for the whole set. If they go any lower I might grab 'em and sell them off as singles for those who are looking for a matching spare. I need one myself. I changed my tires, but kept the Overland wheels and I gave my tires away since I knew I wasn't going to get jack for them anyway.

I'm talking about WHEELS and tires.

Are the Rubicon wheels wider? I'm not sure. Either way, you could certainly do just tires.

If it was me, in MA and NH, I'd buy a new set of wheels/tires, then put a set of dedicated snows on the Overland wheels.

 

[dcmdon]

I am probably going to get a Mojave. Mainly because my wife wants all the toys. Including the nicer seats and leather trimmed interior. Also, the Mojave has considerably better ride and handling on-road.

But if it were just for me, I'd be happy with an overland with AWD and a rear limited slip. Then I'd put some bigger wheels/tires on it and be done.

 

[steveorama]

I'm talking about WHEELS and tires.

Are the Rubicon wheels wider? I'm not sure. Either way, you could certainly do just tires.

So was I.

And the Rubicon wheels are the same as the Overland 7.5" wide.

 

[Mac]

I'm talking about WHEELS and tires.

Are the Rubicon wheels wider? I'm not sure. Either way, you could certainly do just tires.

If it was me, in MA and NH, I'd buy a new set of wheels/tires, then put a set of dedicated snows on the Overland wheels.

From my experience all terrain tires that are 3pmsf are really good in snow and wet conditions, dedicated snows are overkill.

 

[Chestnut]

Based on the WRX manual, it should actually be more like 900lbs. The Overland is 1,120lbs.

Also don't forget that the difference in geometry between the two makes it completely impractical to suggest the WRX is more capable at hauling.

Guess I'm not sure what the manual says and it doesn't matter the tag on the car is what matters. Mine scaled out at 3,400 with me in it, door tag GVWR is 4,475. I tipped the scale at 150 at that time.

I did miss remember my door tag on the gladiator. Sorry it was 1,021lbs.

 

[Dryfly24]

I think where you went wrong is when you said the “off roading“ you do is “not is on purpose”.

On purpose or not it sounds like you do do a significant amount of off roading.

 

[Tackett1980]

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I think where you went wrong is when you said the “off roading“ you do is “not is on purpose”.

On purpose or not it sounds like you do do a significant amount of off roading.

well what I meant by “not on purpose”, was that I don’t purposefully go on off-road trails every weekend for the soul reason of off-roading in itself. Not that I wouldn’t, if presented the opportunity. I totally would. I know some people do that, and I wanted to be clear.

Yes, I am quite a bit off road. 2-3x a week of the family and job cooperate. There are some places I haven’t had my gladiator right now because I’m a little afraid to. I don’t think I’m a very good off road driver despite how much I do it.

 

[Dryfly24]

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well what I meant by “not on purpose”, was that I don’t purposefully go on off-road trails every weekend for the soul reason of off-roading in itself. Not that I wouldn’t, if presented the opportunity. I totally would. I know some people do that, and I wanted to be clear.

Yes, I am quite a bit off road. 2-3x a week of the family and job cooperate. There are some places I haven’t had my gladiator right now because I’m a little afraid to. I don’t think I’m a very good off road driver despite how much I do it.

I think you missed my point. I Understood what you meant. My point is that whether or not it is on purpose has no relevance to the issue. They fact remains that you do go off road.

 

[Terminus33]

Just remember what most said on the first page. You will be better off with more capable tires for off road, and the folks claiming to lift the truck, don't, unless you can't fit the size of tires you need at flex because it won't help your needs much.

Larger tires will lift your differentials and allow them to clear things. A lift kit will lift your bumpers and allow for breakover but you'll still scrape the diffs. From what you do, no rock crawling or hardcore off road, a large lift probably won't be needed. Off road tires and moderate lift to accompany them will do you fine.

 

[Jeepin' John]

Greetings community! My name is Ben, and I am the owner of a new gladiator overland. I got out of my 18 power wagon for it, for multiple reasons which I will explain shortly.
This may be a rather lengthy initial post, with the underlying intent being that I’m having some buyers remorse. Not remorse for buying a gladiator, but specifically for buying an overland. For me to explain why, I have to explain why I ditched my wagon, and why I bought it in the first place.

First of all, I have an hour commute to work. The mileage was pretty terrible and I’d get from 10-12mpg. I can’t fault the truck for that, I knew that getting into it, but regardless it was still a factor. I don’t do any, what I call, “on purpose” off-roading. I’m outdoors a significant amount camping, fishing and hunting. Because of my location, the majority of this requires miles of traveling in, let’s say, less than ideal circumstances. There is no way I could get an open differential 2wd vehicle in to and out of the places I typically go. Not to mention my job requires that I be there, and on the days we get some snow in the winter I can’t stay home. These things all made me very happy to have the PW. In fact, I was looking to trade for a new PW when I saw this gladiator being pulled off the truck.

The vehicle I had that I traded for the PW a few years ago was a JK. It was the only time I had had anything except a pickup truck and while I loved that thing, I could never get past needing a pickup bed. Once the gladiator became available I really wanted one, but went for the full size pickup instead given the price of a similarly equipped rubicon.

Make no mistakes, I do love the smooth ride and the gas mileage. But I do fear that when push comes to shove and I call on this thing to do what I need it to, I’m going to end up in trouble.

So, I’m calling on the expertise of the community to assist me in modding this thing to meet my needs. Obviously I need some real tires and I understand that it’s going to be less capable overall than the wagon was and I’m prepared to deal with that. I would just like some guidance on what direction to go before I start sinking a bunch of money into crap I don’t really need.

Apologies for the long winded post, and I do appreciate anyone taking the time to read and respond.

no, even a lowly sport s is a tractor right out of the box. Your overland will do anything you want it to off road. Driver mod is free and will take you farther than anything else

 

[PanhandleChuck]

People highly underestimate the ability of a stock Jeep and basic off road skills. You likely off road more than 95% of all Jeeps. As mentioned, get a set of take-offs from a Mojave or Rubicon and spend more time getting to know her.

 

[DailyMoparGuy]

I spent a lot of time in your neck of the woods WV/PA/MD/VA, but in a ‘07 Acura MDX which was as sketchy as you might imagine in those hilly trails…I took it to Blue Hole, down below the New River Gorge Bridge (scary as shit), Wonder Falls, etc.

Basically I’m in agreement with others…33inch ATs and maybe a level kit or small lift will do you fine. A wench wouldn’t be a bad idea either. Aside from breakover angle, these Gladiators are no joke what I’ve experienced myself and seen on videos.

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