Help a brother out I came from a zr2

[Glad_he_ate]

That’s my issue, I’ve never lifted a truck and im looking at a cost value analysis. I need to lift to get rid of bottoming issue and if I go with Mopar I want to know im not buying shocks that I don’t need just to replace them with say the 3.0s? Or something along those lines. Im willing to spend the coin just don’t want to waste it. I suppose if I get the Mopar lift and don’t like the shocks I could take the 2.5s and put them on my 4xe then put 3.0s on my JT ?? Anyone care to explain Or compare the dampening of the 2.5s to stock ?? Are they firmer ??

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[JD101]

Coming from a zr2 in a couple different states of build , it's give and take . I was never blown away by the mm spool valve shocks or suspension spring rates . It was overly firm and dampened . I never ran a front sway bar , and never felt it was floaty. My gladiator is soft and floaty . I'm actually pretty happy with it ( also on big tires ) running synergy springs and stock fox shocks . The front is pretty good, the rear could use more damping both comp and rebound . I think you could certainly tune your spring rate up and add damping to match via a shock change . But with a sas truck it's going to ride firmer than the equiv ifs rig. Every one's taste and needs are different . Maybe a firmer spring rate and a quality adjustable shock set. Also keep in ming the stock fox shocks are linear rate ( I believe ) , not sure about the Willy's shocks. . Alot of the popular aftermarket shocks are digressive and will really add the feeling of more control on road , but still ride decent off-road .

 

[Glad_he_ate]

I actually really liked my dssv shocks. But didn’t off road that truck a bunch either. I think I’m going to just go Mopar and if I feel the need for more dampened shocks I’ll swap just the shocks at a later date. Being that I can get the Mopar installed next week and nothing about it is on back order. If the shocks are too soft I’ll order some 3.0s or kings down the rd.

 

[Jeeperjamie]

I never had a issue with my dealership doing warranty work on mine. They replaced the steering box under warranty and ordered me a new Steering Stabilizer at the same time they did the steering box. They didn't do my lift. I also never had a issue with them working on my JKU while it was under warranty and it was lift 4-1/4 inches on 37's. I guess they could deny a claim technically, but they aren't going to on like the engine and major components. Worse case it would be suspension parts which you will be removing anyway if you do a lift. Don't listen to people who have no experience with it.

 

[bakobobby]

Having spent time in a zr2 and now a (non-diesel) Gladiator I would give it a bit more time. If you want a firmer option your best best is save your money and go Fox 2.5 or Falcon sp2 3.x both can be give the more planted ride. The front solid axle is always going to give you more of a floaty feel never going to be a zr2. Fox 2.0s in my experience are a rather plush ride on road not all that firm.

 

[Glad_he_ate]

The Mopar comes with 2.5s. Im not exactly expecting a ifs zr2 feel just looking to have better more controlled rebound. I put 30k miles on the zr2 and have 21k on the glad. So it’s not a matter of me adjusting to the truck at this point. Just need to get more travel for the bottoming issue and to have better rebound control.

 

[sass JT]

So the mopar does come with 2.5’s… monotubes… the only fox 2.5’s you can get aftermarket are the resi’s with low speed and high speed dampening adjusters… they are built on race technology and be a big step up over the mono tubes

https://www.ridefox.com/subhome.php?m=truck&make=Jeep&model=Gladiator+JT&year=2020&position=ALL

 

[Glad_he_ate]

Man those 3.0s are nice..

 

[Bjeepz]

Hey OP, I currently have a 2020 ZR2 Diesel, my feeling is with stock suspension it is by far the best handling rig I've ever had. I can rip corners in my truck with surprising control, I can jump it very modestly off-road and it is always smooth. Where every other rig I've had needs to slow down the ZR2 can speed up!

I had a 2020 Gladiator Overland with the JKS 3.5 lift with Fox 2.0 shocks which was far better than the stock JT suspension. It was the best driving Jeep I'd ever had on the road. The Mopar lift will certainly be better than stock suspension but won't be ZR2 suspension ride quality.

If you want to ensure you retain your warranty the Mopar lift may be a happy medium for you. If Mopar offers a higher level shock as an upgrade go that route right away with what you're seeking.

I'm waiting on my 2022 Mojave to arrive very soon Went Mojave to get a nice factory suspension that I could just add the simple 3/4 inch spacers to with 35's and call it good.

 

[Glad_he_ate]

Hey OP, I currently have a 2020 ZR2 Diesel, my feeling is with stock suspension it is by far the best handling rig I've ever had. I can rip corners in my truck with surprising control, I can jump it very modestly off-road and it is always smooth. Where every other rig I've had needs to slow down the ZR2 can speed up!

I had a 2020 Gladiator Overland with the JKS 3.5 lift with Fox 2.0 shocks which was far better than the stock JT suspension. It was the best driving Jeep I'd ever had on the road. The Mopar lift will certainly be better than stock suspension but won't be ZR2 suspension ride quality.

If you want to ensure you retain your warranty the Mopar lift may be a happy medium for you. If Mopar offers a higher level shock as an upgrade go that route right away with what you're seeking.

I'm waiting on my 2022 Mojave to arrive very soon Went Mojave to get a nice factory suspension that I could just add the simple 3/4 inch spacers to with 35's and call it good.

Thanks for the input!
I’ll have to look on mopars site and see if there is a upgrade option. I knew going in the gladiator was going to ride completely different then the zr2 and honestly for a to b day to day it’s fine. But there is a particular set of railroad tracks near my house that my zr2 took at 60mph and didn’t blink whereas my glad lumbers around like a stoned cow at 35mph lol I’m not bashing the glad just saying they could have managed the diesel weight better. Suspension warranty is near useless to me as it’s unlikely I will have a suspension issue in the next 14k miles and if I do I can write a check if I can’t get the dealer to warranty it.
Again I Appreciate your feedback having been a zr2 owner!
On a side note when I was on the Colorado forum I found that those that didn’t see the dssv shocks as anything special didn’t spend much time running them hard. I didn’t off road a lot but drove rather fast on rd and where I live that might as well be off road lol. In my opinion the dssv shined at 3/4 compression and 3/4 expansion, never bottomed out that suspension! I’ll keep looking and post up what I find

 

[Glad_he_ate]

Oh and I also would go Mohave if it came with the diesel…. Jeep ?? Jeep?? Anyone hear me ?? Mohave with the diesel??? Perhaps a Mopar performance tune ??? Anyone???….no?

 

[BaileyW7]

I came from a built Lexus so not the same but still IFS. My Mojave handles the desert like champ and is a blast to drive. Around town with stock tires it’s a bit stiff but that’s the nature of the beast I guess.

I don’t have an online shock tuning degree like most but I’d say you’d be perfectly happy with the Mopar lift in every scenario unless you plan on high speed fire roads or desert driving. Even then it would be acceptable, just not ZR2

 

[Staphylococcus0]

I’m in the bottoming out thread already as well. I’m looking for users that have experience with both the multimatic dssv system as well as the Mopar lift with fox 2.5s

Well I can say that after getting the mopar lift, it does feel firmer. Doesn't bottom out, until I put on my steel cable winch. Then it just starts to bottom out on bumps traveling just above the speed limit, but not nearly as bad as ot did stock.

I blame St. Louis and their shitty road maintenance.

 

[Pescatoral Pursuit]

I need to lift to get rid of bottoming issue

Jeep is addressing this problem with a TSB. Let your dealer do the fix and if you still want/ need a lift, go from there. They won't do it once you've taken it upon yourself to fix their problem. Won't even give you the parts.

 

[Glad_he_ate]

Jeep is addressing this problem with a TSB. Let your dealer do the fix and if you still want/ need a lift, go from there. They won't do it once you've taken it upon yourself to fix their problem. Won't even give you the parts.

Wish that was the case however the tsb is only for the rubicon… the rest of us just get to fix the issue ourselves.

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