Just another straw to add on Ford's back...

[JeepTaco]

It had better not explode in there. That's not how internal combustion engines work.
It's a controlled burn process. There is ignition, then a flame front progresses across the chamber until all of the mixture is burned.
Explosions are trouble.

Thats right.... a controlled explosion. If it wasn't a controlled explosion, we wouldnt get the power stroke (3rd stroke) on a 4 stroke engine. The energy produced in a power stroke after all can be considered an explosion IMO.

Edit to correct the "cycle" typo.

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[Challenger85]

I'm tired of seeing these post on this Forum in a reality. Sounds like someone has a touch of Bronco Envy!!!!

It’s in the correct section, maybe don’t read it if it bothers you so much?

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Thats right.... a controlled explosion. If it wasn't a controlled explosion, we wouldnt get the power stroke (3rd cycle) on a 4 cycle engine. The energy produced in a power stroke after all can be considered an explosion IMO.

LOL - The internet-taught still won't believe industry and college trained pros........
It's still not an explosion. It's a controlled burn. It takes time to burn across the chamber.

It's not a 4 cycle engine. it's a 4 stroke engine, or more correctly the full term is 4 stroke/cycle.
(4 strokes per cycle) There's no 3rd cycle but there is a 3rd stroke -

• Intake stroke
• Compression stroke
• Power stroke
• exhaust stroke

Your chain saw is a 2 stroke, not a 2 cycle. There's just 1 cycle, 2 strokes per cycle.

It can take as much as 52 degrees of crankshaft rotation for the burn to progress far enough to achieve maximum combustion pressure. Longer for the full burn start to end, even over 180 degrees of rotation.
Light the charge at 36 degrees BTDC, achieve maximum combustion pressure from the progressing burn at about 16 degrees ATDC, and it continues to burn after that.
In fact you can light it at 20 BTDC and it may still be burning at BDC, that's 200 degrees of crankshaft rotation. Hardly an explosion.

I know the rags that don't know squat, your online crap sites that try to explain engine operations (and get half of it wrong), still call it an explosion, but it's not.
Typical pinging is caused when the advancing flame front compresses the unburned charge into a "corner" of the chamber until it reaches high enough pressure and temperature that the fuel self-ignites, so you have two flame fronts that advance until they collide and cause a sonic wave in the block. That's a burn. In fact, two burns, one lit normally and the other lit due to self-ignition of the fuel that's compressed until it's hot enough to self-ignite.
No explosions even there.
Time to pull out the old HS and college materials?

 

[JeepTaco]

LOL - The internet-taught still won't believe industry and college trained pros........
It's still not an explosion. It's a controlled burn. It takes time to burn across the chamber.

It's not a 4 cycle engine. it's a 4 stroke engine, or more correctly the full term is 4 stroke/cycle.
(4 strokes per cycle) There's no 3rd cycle but there is a 3rd stroke -

• Intake stroke
• Compression stroke
• Power stroke
• exhaust stroke

Your chain saw is a 2 stroke, not a 2 cycle. There's just 1 cycle, 2 strokes per cycle.

It can take as much as 52 degrees of crankshaft rotation for the burn to progress far enough to achieve maximum combustion pressure. Longer for the full burn start to end, even over 180 degrees of rotation.
Light the charge at 36 degrees BTDC, achieve maximum combustion pressure from the progressing burn at about 16 degrees ATDC, and it continues to burn after that.
In fact you can light it at 20 BTDC and it may still be burning at BDC, that's 200 degrees of crankshaft rotation. Hardly an explosion.

I know the rags that don't know squat, your online crap sites that try to explain engine operations (and get half of it wrong), still call it an explosion, but it's not.
Typical pinging is caused when the advancing flame front compresses the unburned charge into a "corner" of the chamber until it reaches high enough pressure and temperature that the fuel self-ignites, so you have two flame fronts that advance until they collide and cause a sonic wave in the block. That's a burn. In fact, two burns, one lit normally and the other lit due to self-ignition of the fuel that's compressed until it's hot enough to self-ignite.
No explosions even there.
Time to pull out the old HS and college materials?

Thats cool SP.
You shouldn't assume that i've learned from the internet. There are different ways of explaining/interpreting vs what YOU explain.

It's clear that you worked in the field but to assume other peoples backgrounds? Come on now...

I stand corrected when I said 4 cycle engine. Yes its 4 stroke since I was talking about the "power stroke" not cycle. My bad lol.

Take a chill pill SP. Not a pissing contest lol. Just sounded funny when he said explosions...

Cheers. Moving on.....

 

[Summitsearcher]

I had a Ford Granada that was a great little car. My 70 Gran Torino was too much fun. My Dad worked for GM and used to give me crap all the time. I used to ask why did you buy a Honda and not a Harley!

On that day I learned “Do as I say, not as I do.” ?‍

 

[IanNubbit]

50 is actually a huge number tbh. This is a preatty big blow

 

[Hootbro]

As much as I like to shit on other makes as the next guy, I can remember all the dropped valve seat issues on the Pentastar's in the 2013-2014 Wrangler JK.

 

[OVERLORD]

LOL - The internet-taught still won't believe industry and college trained pros........
It's still not an explosion. It's a controlled burn. It takes time to burn across the chamber.

It's not a 4 cycle engine. it's a 4 stroke engine, or more correctly the full term is 4 stroke/cycle.
(4 strokes per cycle) There's no 3rd cycle but there is a 3rd stroke -

• Intake stroke
• Compression stroke
• Power stroke
• exhaust stroke

Your chain saw is a 2 stroke, not a 2 cycle. There's just 1 cycle, 2 strokes per cycle.

It can take as much as 52 degrees of crankshaft rotation for the burn to progress far enough to achieve maximum combustion pressure. Longer for the full burn start to end, even over 180 degrees of rotation.
Light the charge at 36 degrees BTDC, achieve maximum combustion pressure from the progressing burn at about 16 degrees ATDC, and it continues to burn after that.
In fact you can light it at 20 BTDC and it may still be burning at BDC, that's 200 degrees of crankshaft rotation. Hardly an explosion.

I know the rags that don't know squat, your online crap sites that try to explain engine operations (and get half of it wrong), still call it an explosion, but it's not.
Typical pinging is caused when the advancing flame front compresses the unburned charge into a "corner" of the chamber until it reaches high enough pressure and temperature that the fuel self-ignites, so you have two flame fronts that advance until they collide and cause a sonic wave in the block. That's a burn. In fact, two burns, one lit normally and the other lit due to self-ignition of the fuel that's compressed until it's hot enough to self-ignite.
No explosions even there.
Time to pull out the old HS and college materials?

How I was taught,

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[Advntrbound]

I'm tired of seeing these post on this Forum in a reality. Sounds like someone has a touch of Bronco Envy!!!!

I guarantee they are quoting the newest CR and JD power midsized truck report on every Bronco forum. https://www.motorbiscuit.com/consumer-reports-j-d-power-agree-worst-midsize-truck/ it's just what car people do.

 

[brianinca]

I had a Ranger that DID what the new Ranger Raptor is supposed to, had a lot of fun with it but I can't imagine going down market to a Ranger now.

Hate to say it but I’ll probably dump my jeep when the ranger raptor hits the order list

 

[brianinca]

I think the Maverick is a super neat little truck, my wife is talking about one for her mom. Ford saw a niche everyone else ignored, then really put a lot of thought and engineering into it. Good on them, and I will point out that success from a domestic maker raises ALL boats!

It would be hard for me to ever buy another Ford after 2 pieces of crap vehicles from them. But I like the 2 door bronco but would not buy one. I do like my neighbors Mavrick. Man that thing looks to be a great thing for someone looking for a daily driver but needs a truck if your needing gas mileage, etc

 

[cuellar13]

I'm tired of seeing these post on this Forum in a reality. Sounds like someone has a touch of Bronco Envy!!!!

I'm right there with ya- I understand that there's gonna be some things here or there about what people are considering a "rival" vehicle, but this forum has a knee jerk reaction to post any and every potential negative article/opinion piece/etc.

Meanwhile, we have a Bronco in the garage that's been awesome. I had an F150 with the 2.7 that was awesome. All of my Jeeps, on the other hand, have given me shit, INCLUDING my JTR.

 

[cafecito]

Yep, but enough with Bronco crap, that's all, carry on!!!!

The funny thing is that you're the one coming off as overly sensitive about the subject, not the OP.

 

[Jeeperjamie]

The funny thing is that you're the one coming off as overly sensitive about the subject, not the OP.

I've let it go, you should too!!!!

 

[Jefe1018]

Somewhere on a Bronco forum, they are laughing in broken tie rod about my de-rated eco-diesel.

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