STOLEN from my driveway this morning! New Jeeps are crazy easy to steal apparently...

[RangerG]

The day after I picked up my Gladiator I added hood locks. Mainly to keep my batteries and LED lights safe….and now the jeep itself.

My last Wrangler (TJ) had “The Plug” installed. Now that Iloved!!!! Good luck stealing the Jeep with that. Properly installed it is AWESOME! I have put it on my other cars over the years as it is not some stupid alarm piece. You could leave the keys on the seat without the doors on the car and without the matching unique plug pin the car still will not go as the plug is required to complete the electrical circuits within the car for starting.

They have held contests to see if someone could steal the vehicle with the plug and nope. You have to spend hours tracing all the wires in the engine bay as it is camouflaged etc. Sure they could tow away your JEep but easier to move on.

Most thieves do not even know what the Plug is so have it installed somewhere reachable but somewhat obscure. Even if they figure out the obscure gray plug is involved and cut the wire right at the plug it does not do a bypass letting them steal it.

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That so sucks they took it.

Getting the plug installed on Thursday. I know with Allstate Ins. They only cover up to around $8000 in after market modes. Better to have damage from attempt to be stolen, that is coved than the whole truck stolen.

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[joeym7]

I'm more likely to die from a heart attack, get killed on the Des Moines freeway, or have my truck totaled in an accident than I am having it stolen. I'm not going to live lift as if at any minute my truck is about to disappear. The odds are still in the millions. Why would I go through such things to prevent something that is so unlikely to happen?
I may as well sell or give away everything I have and move to Alaska and build a cabin in the sticks and live off the wildlife.
Living life in constant fear of something being stolen isn't living.
Taking basic simple precautions is great, but to give up how my truck operates like the fob or locks because I'm afraid of a 1 in how many million chance it might get stolen?
No. My odds of losing the truck for other reasons, or getting killed myself are many times higher than this truck getting stolen.
Of all of the Gladiator owners in North America, how many have been stolen, and what percentage is that?

Taking reasonable precautions doesn't equate to "Living in constant fear". I'm sure you have taken precautions in some area of your life, were you in constant fear? Do you brush your teeth in the Moring because you are in constant fear of rotten teeth or bad-breath ;-)?

I know this is the internet but, trying to brand people who take precautions to secure their Truck as "paranoid-lunatics living in constant fear" LOL is quite a "stretch".

And your estimate of the odds of it being stolen is quite a bit off, at least 3+ orders of magnitude or more depending on your meaning of "1 in how many million". According to the FBI anyway.
https://www.iii.org/fact-statistic/facts-statistics-auto-theft

Kinda weird that the "do nothing to secure ones vehicle" POVers want to convince others they are being foolish for taking some very (basic) precautions like a hood lock, or a F-Bag, or even a S-wheel lock if it suits them.

You guys are on the wrong side of this. Wrong meaning an incongruent and somewhat illogic argument.

 

[Brojave22]

I'm wondering how they're starting it....IF a replay attack wasn't used which it sounds like it wasn't based on the video. My keys have no batteries. Just RFID and key.

Short of towing it....how can they take it? Short of having full dealer capability to program a new FOB etc. Again...there is no signal at all for my truck. FOBs are dead.

They are using something different, you really can't steal the signal, (not since the 90s) only way to do that is if you yourself press the unlock button, they know what that random code in the sequence was before hand (almost impossible to guess, they don't use rolling codes anymore), they block that signal from getting to your JT, then you don't press the unlock button again so they can now use the code they just blocked because the key never sent it to the JT. Highly unlikely. Most likely using something stolen from the dealership, save that tinfoil for some brisket!

If they could steal, mimic and block your code, and you not hit the remote again, while knowing the algorithm your JT has, they could unlock it, not start it. once you hit unlock again the key and JT no longer use the previous code, it's not the old rolling codes anymore, garage doors don't even use that old tech, new system is encrypted and sends an encrypted code that is deciphered and randomly with an algorithm. Each time you push the unlock button, the key fob uses an algorithm to generate a new code. The car knows the same algorithm, and the old codes are discarded each time a new one is generated. Most likely using something stolen from the dealership

 

[robinja]

He thinks name calling is some way of effectively communicating.

You mean like calling someone a tough guy?… The fact that some choose to be cowards is not lost on those of us that choose to resist criminals. Remain a sheep… I’ll always be a sheepdog.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Taking reasonable precautions doesn't equate to "Living in constant fear". I'm sure you have taken precautions in some area of your life, were you in constant fear? Do you brush your teeth in the Moring because you are in constant fear of rotten teeth or bad-breath ;-)?

I know this is the internet but, trying to brand people who take precautions to secure their Truck as "paranoid-lunatics living in constant fear" LOL is quite a "stretch".

And your estimate of the odds of it being stolen is quite a bit off, at least 3+ orders of magnitude or more depending on your meaning of "1 in how many million". According to the FBI anyway.
https://www.iii.org/fact-statistic/facts-statistics-auto-theft

Kinda weird that the "do nothing to secure ones vehicle" POVers want to convince others they are being foolish for taking some very (basic) precautions like a hood lock, or a F-Bag, or even a S-wheel lock if it suits them.

You guys are on the wrong side of this. Wrong meaning an incongruent and somewhat illogic argument.

Right - taking reasonable precautions is keeping it locked, garaged if possible, setting alarms, using security systems (for home a good idea anyway)
But taking batteries out of a fob...........

I am not referring to hood locks, alarms, even secret switches. If someone wants to use a steering wheel lock - fine. You've never seen me talk negative about that sort of thing.

I'm not for doing nothing, never said or implied I was.
But I'm not taking batteries out of the fob (but will use protection while they are in the house even though we are in a rural area with little crime). I'm not ripping out passive entry.
I will be aware of my surroundings, etc.
I am all for reasonable precautions.

Your points of brushing teeth - LOL, a hoot. No, brushing every hour would be constant fear.
I also never used "paranoid lunatics".

You read my post all wrong, and missed where I support, even suggested, ways to lock things.

On the other hand - getting ticked because Jeep won't offer a locking gas cap - when few do, and you can't siphon gas out of the Gladiator via the fill anyway....... why get upset over no lock when there's nothing to protect.

Like I said - read back - I advocate reasonable precautions.
But there's such a thing as going off the deep end with it.

 

[BAT]

Getting the plug installed on Thursday. I know with Allstate Ins. They only cover up to around $8000 in after market modes. Better to have damage from attempt to be stolen, that is coved than the whole truck stolen.

Interested to hear how it goes

 

[ShadowsPapa]

After finding that I could, with bare hands, lift the rear end of the tonneau cover up (the "weekend warrior section at the back end) and get to the red latch handles to unlatch it without opening the tail gate - lest anyone think I'm anti-security, and against taking reasonable measures to secure things................ I resolved that little issue.

There's one of these on each side. They hook onto the metal bar of the cover.

If my tailgate is closed and locked, you can't get the cover open without destruction.
(and it might help if I ever had a claim to say "yes - it was locked, they had to break in to get the stuff")

Stout - and rivnuts hold them to the truck. They aren't just screwed into the aluminum.
That little "hook" on the end means it can't pop off or be easily popped off the tonneau cover bar.

 

[Dan in Pasadena]

You mean like calling someone a tough guy?… The fact that some choose to be cowards is not lost on those of us that choose to resist criminals. Remain a sheep… I’ll always be a sheepdog.

Wow, I'm a coward because I wouldn't murder someone? You've got definite problems with your views.

 

[punk'n]

Love how these threads all spiral out of shape. Its actually quite entertaining and everyone gets to see each others true colors.

OP, sorry that your truck was stolen. For what its worth, I blame the thieves.

 

[K-Dog]

Love how these threads all spiral out of shape. Its actually quite entertaining and everyone gets to see each others true colors.

OP, sorry that your truck was stolen. For what its worth, I blame the thieves.

I know right! Selling my Jeep and buying a garage. Stock is limited but hopefully I will get a good rate, heck may even go for a two door garage.

 

[Summitsearcher]

I’m just wondering, couldn’t you leave the transfer case in neutral? Or fool the tranny to think the doors were open locking it in park? Pull the disengagement strap in front of the shifter? Anything that doesn’t cost $800?

Unfortunatly if they want it bad enough they’ll take it. I’ll let insurance do it’s job personally. I already give them an arm and a leg.

 

[ZoMojave]

I'm more likely to die from a heart attack, get killed on the Des Moines freeway, or have my truck totaled in an accident than I am having it stolen. I'm not going to live lift as if at any minute my truck is about to disappear. The odds are still in the millions. Why would I go through such things to prevent something that is so unlikely to happen?
I may as well sell or give away everything I have and move to Alaska and build a cabin in the sticks and live off the wildlife.
Living life in constant fear of something being stolen isn't living.
Taking basic simple precautions is great, but to give up how my truck operates like the fob or locks because I'm afraid of a 1 in how many million chance it might get stolen?
No. My odds of losing the truck for other reasons, or getting killed myself are many times higher than this truck getting stolen.
Of all of the Gladiator owners in North America, how many have been stolen, and what percentage is that?

Right on Bill! Not only does this apply to the subject of this thread, it also applies to life in general. Especially after the previous couple of years.

The lower the fear factor, the lower the worry factor.

 

[robinja]

Wow, I'm a coward because I wouldn't murder someone? You've got definite problems with your views.

Coward is defined as… a person who lacks the courage to do or endure dangerous or unpleasant things. If you won't fight against criminals for something as simple as property rights, you won't fight for anything at all. Appears you have chosen the role you wish to play in this life.

 

[am1978]

That's a cool device, how's it holding up now? Also where/what hood locks do you have? Sounds like I need to get some sooner than later

This video is from an area Ravelco installer. Advance through the video to 2:30 - .

Other videos here on how to hack a car. https://mid-atlanticravelco.com/about/

 

[am1978]

This will slow them down.

Thieves used to just cut through the steering wheel to remove that. It wouldn’t take long.

[edit] My dad was San Antonio PD working auto theft in the 90s. As others have said, there isn’t much you can do if they want it bad enough.

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