2020 Jeep Gladiator Pickup (JT) Info Compilation

[DamonC64]

Also I was just going back and reading this thread from the beginning and there were comments that the front window would not fold down. Recent pictures of the cab clearly show that the window will fold down.

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[TexTJ209]

LMAO, did I insult your manliness? I'll be owning a scrambler AND Pacifica. Both near $50k new.

I think you just insulted your own manliness by stating you're gonna own a Pacifica. :P

Also, ventilated seats as defined by most OEMs I could find basically always refer to an actively cooled or air conditioned seat. Which, doesn't necessarily work all that well in a vehicle designed to get wet, as that's a lot of pores for water to make its way into a get moldy. Also why cloth seats suck in Jeeps. Regardless, I wouldn't be surprised if it's an option eventually. Just not for 2019/2020 as far as we know yet.

 

[steffen707]

I think you just insulted your own manliness by stating you're gonna own a Pacifica. :P

Nahh, i'm a dad now, no turning back with a 4 and 2 year old. Its practical for my wife to have a Pacifica.

[QUOTE="TexTJ209, post: 133110, member: 11135"
Also, ventilated seats as defined by most OEMs I could find basically always refer to an actively cooled or air conditioned seat. [/QUOTE]

"In the case of Ventilated seats, it’s just a system of fans. This creates airflow and should cool you down a bit on those hot days." https://www.toyotaonthetrail.ca/2017/06/01/how-do-heated-cooled-and-ventilated-seats-work/

 

[steffen707]

"The premium, ergonomically designed available heated and ventilated seats support contours of the body and provide generous leg room for ultimate comfort" - Pacifica https://www.chrysler.com/content/da.../brochure/2018_chrysler_pacifica_brochure.pdf

"heated and cooled, multicontour seats" - Explorer https://www.ford.com/services/assets/Brochure?make=Ford&model=Explorer&year=2018

Some explorers with the cooled seats actually use a peltier device to heat/cool the air the fans blow onto your butt.

"Heated and ventilated seats keep you and your front passenger comfortable in any weather." - Odyssey - ventillated, not cooled,

"For days when it’s so hot you need some extra cooling, Ventilated Front Seats circulate cool air through the perforated leather-trimmed seats. They’re one more way the Accord is designed to help the driver and passenger reach their optimum comfort levels." - Accord - so confusing, is it cooled or ventilated. Unfortunately, only ventilated- https://www.driveaccord.net/forums/...s-not-cooled-seats-how-well-do-they-work.html

Mostly ventilated, only some use active cooling.

 

[TexTJ209]

Nahh, i'm a dad now, no turning back with a 4 and 2 year old. Its practical for my wife to have a Pacifica.

[QUOTE="TexTJ209, post: 133110, member: 11135"
Also, ventilated seats as defined by most OEMs I could find basically always refer to an actively cooled or air conditioned seat.

"In the case of Ventilated seats, it’s just a system of fans. This creates airflow and should cool you down a bit on those hot days." https://www.toyotaonthetrail.ca/2017/06/01/how-do-heated-cooled-and-ventilated-seats-work/

You will find many manufacturers saying heated/cooled, when really there isn't an "cooling element between the fans", so really its just ventillated.

I'll try to find more sources to site and update later.

Right, my point was it's still an active cooling system, not that it necessarily uses air from the A/C system(actively cooled or air conditioned). Sorry if that wasn't clear! Technically a ventilated seat could also refer to one that only has holes in it to allow airflow, but without an active re-circulation system via fans. That was what I meant by actively cooled, not that it necessarily has a radiator or other cooling element device beyond just air movement.

 

[steffen707]

"was what I meant by actively cooled, not that it necessarily has a radiator or other cooling element device beyond just air movement.

OH, my bad, I suppose a fan is active.

3 types then
Ventilated
Ventilated with fan
Some device with van

 

[TexTJ209]

OH, my bad, I suppose a fan is active.

3 types then
Ventilated
Ventilated with fan
Some device with van

I'd agree with that! Sure wish they put the cooled seats in the non-Limited 4Runners, my wife's all black leather interior gets a wee bit hot in August in Texas!

I'm down with it being an option on JL/JTs as long as they make it robust enough to withstand water and it doesn't just turn into a way to febreeze my ass with moldy air. :cwl:

 

[homerun]

In the case of some asses moldy air could be an improvement.

Here is my point said a different way. If you have been following the forum for a bit. I would say at least 50% of the talk is about how high the price will be. Come on Jeep don't price truck buyers out and so on. (especially true when we haven't had leaks for a bit). If price really is such a concern I am now confused as to why the big push/disappointment around the JT/JL not having vented seats. Are vented seats nice? I honestly don't know as I have never had them, but for my money I can think of about 1000 other features that I would like to have/keep that make a Jeep special and vented seats just isn't one of them.

 

[Troybilt]

In the case of some asses moldy air could be an improvement.

Here is my point said a different way. If you have been following the forum for a bit. I would say at least 50% of the talk is about how high the price will be. Come on Jeep don't price truck buyers out and so on. (especially true when we haven't had leaks for a bit). If price really is such a concern I am now confused as to why the big push/disappointment around the JT/JL not having vented seats. Are vented seats nice? I honestly don't know as I have never had them, but for my money I can think of about 1000 other features that I would like to have/keep that make a Jeep special and vented seats just isn't one of them.

^^^ all day long.

 

[2020 SCRAMBLER]

Like Homerun said, if you are worried about not having air conditioned / vented seats on a vehicle that was designed to have its interior rinsed out with a water hose, can I respectfully suggest that you are almost certainly looking at the wrong vehicle...

Heated seats I can almost understand if you live in a very cold climate. This can be added for <$150 if you know how to do a little wiring and willing to learn some basic upholstery work.

 

[TexTJ209]

Like Homerun said, if you are worried about not having air conditioned / vented seats on a vehicle that was designed to have its interior rinsed out with a water hose, can I respectfully suggest that you are almost certainly looking at the wrong vehicle...

Heated seats I can almost understand if you live in a very cold climate. This can be added for <$150 if you know how to do a little wiring and willing to learn some basic upholstery work.

On the flip side, if you've ever been stuck in traffic in a topless/doorless Jeep on a 100+ degree day, a cool breeze down below would be heavenly.

 

[2020 SCRAMBLER]

Yes, have been in the open top heat as well as closed top rainy humidity.

Just don't think the vented seats and a bunch of other electronic gimmicks offered as options should be on an open top Jeep. It's meant to be a minimal frills very capable open top and off road vehicle.

Back in the late '80s I remember getting my CJ7. Was sore as heck after riding in this but eventually your body got used to it. Drove it everywhere and you learned to live with it as simple but fun local transportation. If it rained, you simply resigned yourself to getting wet. At some point I just left the floor plugs out so the water could always drain out...

With people willing to buy all these silly electronic and "luxury" options, next thing you know Jeep will think we all want that stuff and we will end up with no manual transmissions, independent suspensions, and a flower vase on the dash too.

 

[TexTJ209]

Yes, have been in the open top heat as well as closed top rainy humidity.

Just don't think the vented seats and a bunch of other electronic gimmicks offered as options should be on an open top Jeep. It's meant to be a minimal frills very capable open top and off road vehicle.

Back in the late '80s I remember getting my CJ7. Was sore as heck after riding in this but eventually your body got used to it. Drove it everywhere and you learned to live with it as simple but fun local transportation. If it rained, you simply resigned yourself to getting wet. At some point I just left the floor plugs out so the water could always drain out...

With people willing to buy all these silly electronic and "luxury" options, next thing you know Jeep will think we all want that stuff and we will end up with no manual transmissions, independent suspensions, and a flower vase on the dash too.

Oh I agree, I'm a TJ and CJ guy. My JT purchase may actually get delayed as I may get an LJ first haha. The tech shit is coming though because unfortunately most buyers want it these days. I generally prefer my Jeeps with only the basics, mostly because all the extra crap is just more shit to break.

But, CJ guys said that shit about AC too. And that was a godsend in my TJ on hot days.

 

[Moabite]

One reason I got rid of my JKUR was because I had to re-boot it out in the wilderness once. There's something not quite right about that. A no frills Rubicon would be great, but the electrical systems themselves have gotten frilly. Progress, I guess.

Since I bought my Gladiator back (bought it the first time in 1982), I haven't missed air-conditioning one bit...that's what they invented windows and removeable tops for. I also carry one of those pressurized spray water bottles when it's hot. Cooled and ventilated seats? No thanks.

The biggest problem I've found with the ol' Gladiator is that I'm now so interested in preserving it that I rarely drive it. It's a rare, rust-free, unmolested, completely original vehicle. So I've pretty much decided to let it go to a new owner again, trade in my Canyon, and pick up the new Jeep Pickup (I still have problems calling it a Gladiator). I currently have 3 dealers who will call me the moment order banks open for the JT. I won't be ordering ass-ventilation, leather seats, trail departure assist (or whatever they call it), or any of that other foofoo crap...except for the high-end sound system, of course.

 

[eternus]

Frame/Suspension/Transmission/Tires (see thread)

• FOX performance shocks (Rubicon)

So... the current Rubicon doesn't get an upgrade to FOX right? Do you think this will be a "Baja" bundle or some sort of suspension upgrade option beyond standard Rubicon? Or do you expect that the Rubicon Truck will just have FOX instead of standard shocks?

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