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There's too much at risk for most. They don't wanna risk what little they have. Especially when there are a good chunk of older generations who got the American dream and aren't gonna be cool will anyone trying to mess that up. It was easy to be a revolutionary a few decades ago. Anonymity was only a ski mask away. Now you breath the wrong way and you on a watch list somewhere. Attempt to act on it and you'll branded a terrorist and put down before you could enact any real change. I'm pretty sure it takes a lot more than 3% of a population to force hands in the modern world. A lot of Americans can't afford to bite the hand that feeds, even if its poison. I wouldn't say its hopeless but we stuck playing the long game and we already got the shortest stick.
I dont know that I fully agree with that. During our civil war people were willing to loose their lives over what they considered right. Many people lost husbands, children.... That was a bit different than any war outside our country. Loosing your life is a pretty darn big risk to take. Not many people are willing to risk that much today despite the good or bad that it means to their future generations. I'm not saying it's right or wrong. But change can happen if a population of people are willing to take the risk and make it happen. But that goes back to my original statement. Nobody has the guts to do it.
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Looks interesting, but I'm not a fan of electric appliances on the road or trail, at least as of yet. My Gladiator is on the 20 year plan. Nobody has any idea what will be out by then. I'll be 75 years old and hopefully in good enough shape to either continue to keep it running or to go looking at whatever's next.

I sold my JK at 17 years old and 193,000 miles and it was running like new with no rust. It saw LOTS of off-roading and was a daily driver much of that time. 5 kids and at least 4 adults learned to drive a manual on it, so while it was babied and pampered with good maintenance, it was not babied when on the road or trail. From experience with my JL, I know this Gladiator is a better built machine in every way. So I'm confident it will see this new Gladiator come and go as it carries me and my loved ones on countless adventures and becomes a part of great stories yet to be told.
 

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Bro! and I thought Utah was cool? That sucks. But if its happening there already, Its any day now over here. And people wonder why i wanna move to Idaho or Alaska.
We regularly have the worst air quality in the US, I'm talking "LA in the 70s" levels of bad. People end up in the hospital over our air quality.

I'm not opposed to changing that.
 

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We regularly have the worst air quality in the US, I'm talking "LA in the 70s" levels of bad. People end up in the hospital over our air quality.

I'm not opposed to changing that.
from cars or industry tho?
 

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Sure more range perhaps but that is a bone stock electric F150, no add ons and with only one passenger. Friend tells me in the winter its range is about 150 and it’s done.
And yet in the commercial, they show the electric F-150 driving up to a house and powering the whole house. They show the electric F-150 driving up to a house and powering the whole house.
 

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from cars or industry tho?
The majority is from transportation according to the last study. 9% is particulate dust that blows in from the desert. During COVID they were able to monitor air quality and index it against reduced traffic numbers. Nitrous oxide, a key component of tail pipe emissions dropped almost 60% compared to the previous year - so yeah, it's significant.

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90% is from transportation according to the last study.
Thats wild. Didn't know there were that many cars in Utah. I wonder why its such a big issue there vs other areas with similar population density and emissions
 

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Thats wild. Didn't know there were that many cars in Utah. I wonder why its such a big issue there vs other areas with similar population density and emissions
I found an updated study from COVID and added it to my post - it indicates about 60% of the pollution is from transportation, with about 9% being from blowing dust from the desert. The remaining 30ish-percent is from industry. "Point source" emissions like power plants or factories are much easier to manage, you can have big scrubbers and capture systems that don't fit on cars.

One of the unique challenges with Salt Lake is the geography. The city sits in a "bowl" between two mountain ranges that trap pollution, especially in the winter during periods of high pressure. The air is stagnant, so you end up sitting in a bathtub of filthy air. It takes a storm system moving through to stir the air up so it can move on to be someone else's problem. In the summer there's wildfires that contribute to the particulate, but the heat of the desert causes an increase in O-zone that is a lung irritant. Coastal cities have regular cycles of wind to and from the ocean as the day gets warmer and cooler, this helps them cycle out the pollution for cleaner air every day.

There are more days we have to keep the house closed up due to air quality conditions than we can open them up. Our house is old and has a fireplace, we haven't used it in years due to the solid fuel burning bans that persist through most the winter. I recently covered it with a bookcase because we haven't used it in over a decade.
 

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I found an updated study from COVID and added it to my post - it indicates about 60% of the pollution is from transportation, with about 9% being from blowing dust from the desert. The remaining 30ish-percent is from industry. "Point source" emissions like power plants or factories are much easier to manage, you can have big scrubbers and capture systems that don't fit on cars.

One of the unique challenges with Salt Lake is the geography. The city sits in a "bowl" between two mountain ranges that trap pollution, especially in the winter during periods of high pressure. The air is stagnant, so you end up sitting in a bathtub of filthy air. It takes a storm system moving through to stir the air up so it can move on to be someone else's problem. In the summer there's wildfires that contribute to the particulate, but the heat of the desert causes an increase in O-zone that is a lung irritant. Coastal cities have regular cycles of wind to and from the ocean as the day gets warmer and cooler, this helps them cycle out the pollution for cleaner air every day.

There are more days we have to keep the house closed up due to air quality conditions than we can open them up. Our house is old and has a fireplace, we haven't used it in years due to the solid fuel burning bans that persist through most the winter. I recently covered it with a bookcase because we haven't used it in over a decade.
Similar story in the Flathead and Missoula. Fortunately I am not in Missoula county which is terrible for forcing people how to live. But they actually permanently banned wood stoves, and I think even pellet stoves, for 'pollution'. Almost everyone is on electric with some on LP. But winter inversions get really really bad there because it's basically a bowl without easy clear air movement. They also get smoke from all the fires in CA, WA, OR, ID, and Canada. Last year for about 2 months you couldn't even see 5 miles, on the ground.
 

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And yet in the commercial, they show the electric F-150 driving up to a house and powering the whole house. They show the electric F-150 driving up to a house and powering the whole house.
I’ll admit I was little surprised. He is the planner and deals with all the light vehicles at this gold mine. He happened to stop by my house to pick up his bow I had been working on in a brand new one. So got to check it out and see things. I honestly expected for the size of truck I might a better range than that, he said 300 max I was really disappointed. I mean what the hell do you do with that. Sure I car whatever I guess but a truck?!
 

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You actually could get rid of it if enough of you came together changed your representation. You don't work for them, they work for you.
As much as I agree with this sentiment, my state has had over 150K more people leave for more warmer climates in the past 5 years over newcomers, making the imbalance between the parties far worse. The I95 corridor dominates state politics and contributes to a nearly 3:1 ratio of registered democrats to republicans overall.

The majority is from transportation according to the last study. 9% is particulate dust that blows in from the desert. During COVID they were able to monitor air quality and index it against reduced traffic numbers. Nitrous oxide, a key component of tail pipe emissions dropped almost 60% compared to the previous year - so yeah, it's significant.
I wonder if Utah and other mountainous states with similar problems could start using reformulated gasoline like in California to combat the pollution?
 

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It took forever to get a Truck that resembled the Wrangler. So long, there was a attempt called the Scrambler CJ8 based off the CJ7. Then came the Commanche. It was a very good truck but based off the Cherokee platform. Obviously, there was the J series trucks from the 60s to the early 80s, but those were more full-size vehicles. The gladiator as we know it is a great truck except the fact every truck has gone to one configuration. 4 doors, and smaller bed. A two door with a longer bed for people like me who have no friends would be outstanding. All I need is two seats. One for me, and one for all my friends with one left over.
 
 







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